Wormholes

THIS!

My corp has evicted 3 times already (last time from Rooks&Kings...really good fun) and we are still in WH. Yes we lost some members, anyway most of them are useless carebeers ( its mean more isk for me ) :) but others more pvp oriented stay with us and brings more pvp friends.... and i must say we are stronger after those evictions.....

"If you lose. You were blobbed." Noooope Referring to the countless great fights with Exhalized, TLC (fking pantheon), AHARM, DSI ... You win some and you lose some, even if we lose we have a great time, because regardless who wins we can team up in nullsec 10 minutes after the fight and shoot our common enemy

Else I agree, qft and all of that. Well put.

In the link above, we ended up breaking about even although outnumbered at least 5:1. Did we complain about being blobbed? Absolutely not. It was great fun, and we'd do it again in a heartbeat.

As anywhere in eve, failures in leadership so often look to explain away issues by pointing a finger at a variety of common excuses. The truth is, if you are outnumbered and destroyed you have made strategic and tactical errors approaching the engagement. Fighting overwhelming numbers is not an assured loss, and the same could be said with that flipped in reverse.

As someone who has moved all his personal stuff twice into new wormholes in the last 4 months (if only because of corp switch, not evictions), I wish it were simpler. If we could move our ships in bulk, setting up again after an eviction would not be such a terrible prospect.

The ability to repackage ships in a POS would go a long way. A specialized ship-hauling ship would be another good thing. Something with a bay that can only hold packaged ships but a lot of them.

Today many wh groups are extremely entrenched in their home. They are hard to evict, but if it were done, it would also be extremely tiresome for them to ever restore what they had. So they are very fearful of being evicted and always escalate to the max when threatened with eviction.

As someone else said here, you need at least 20 pvp ships in your home to be able to respond to various challenges (wh brawl, nullsec roam, cap fight, pulsar fights etc). If there was a way to move that kind of equipment in one or two trips per character, corps could operate much leaner and be more mobile.

The same goes for POSes... modules take too much cargospace, especially ewar mods.

...and in return, we could get rid of self-destructing in wormholes altogether, except for pods

As someone has already pointed out the hypocrisy of your statement, i'm not going to comment on that but i would like to share my opinion on the publicity thing...

The so called blobbing tactic use during the TL invasion (not eviction) may not be appealing to everyone but, in my opinion, the more player activities in wormhole make the news - the more people on the outside will become interested in wormhole space.

I think you are half right when you say wormholes where "meant" to be for small gang warfare. I think wormholes were designed to "encourage" small gang warfare but the good thing about eve is that it allows us to be flexible in what and how we do things.

Lets not forget, invasions of this scale are no easy feat. They take weeks/months to plan and prepare for and take hundreds, if not thousands, of man hours to implement. To suggest that all we should be doing in W-space is meeting a hostile fleet at the sun and saying "gg guys, we must do this again sometime" is a little ridiculous imo.

p.s. thanks for the shout out last week.

If anyone wants to talk about Blobs... head to VFK-IV that was pretty insane.

Btw - great video whoever edited... good stuff!

John Q here:

The overriding factor to a successful invasion is initiative. Given the island like existence of w-space inhabitants it is always easier for an invader to do so with a fleet sufficiently large enough to gain complete control over a system before the defenders have the time to react. Since the invader, sufficiently connected, can always produce overwhelming fleets the invasion's chance of success is very high barring catastrophic FC/fleet failscade.

It's not possible for a single system to house sufficient numbers to defend against such fleets. There is still the option of the batphone. However, given that by the time the batphone is typically used the system is most likely locked down with hole control being maintained by the invaders. The time it takes for reinforcements to power roll for a successful route, if ever, typically means the fight is already over.

This is a weakness in w-space habitation. The best strategy, if one is to live in w-space maintaining hundreds of billions in assets therein, is to always be the invader with overwhelmingly large fleets...read that as this is your sole existence, to invade other inhabitants thereby pre-emptively eliminating potential threats before they eliminate you. Otherwise, it's merely time before a 200 man fleet shows up on your doorstep of which you cannot defend against.

Except of course the fact that there are a few sizable entities in w-space who have resided there for the past few years and have not invaded anyone and did not get evicted.

Lol, we don't do evictions guys we just get paid for them....

The Iraqi Minister of Information is alive and well

I generally dislike evictions. Saying you are using an eviction as a conflict driver is a false statement. If you TRULY wanted a conflict driver, you would jump in your caps and your subcaps, warp to a safespot and just sit there. You could even hide your caps and just keep half of your subcaps on grid to sping a trap, whatever. This would work to get people to come and attack you. Especially if you did it during their primetime. (Sitting a fleet out while only 3 of them are online and then proceeding to evict doesnt count.)

No one believes anyone when they say that the eviction was just a method to get a good fight. If this were EVER true, you wouldnt destroy towers. You could simply shoot a poco and use its reinforcement timer as the countdown for the fleet fight. So Im calling out everyone who ever says they are looking for good fights when they destroy a pos. You are a liar.