Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Combat logistics ships replenish supplies to other fleet vessels. They include oilers, ammunition ships and combat store ships. To provide supplies (inc. provisions, fuel and ammunition) to combatant ships that are at sea for extended periods of time.
An auxiliary ship is a naval ship which is designed to operate in any number of roles supporting combatant ships and other naval operations. Auxiliaries are not primary combatants, although they may have some limited combat capacity, usually of a self-defense nature.

Roles:

• Supply

• Replenishment

• Transport

• Repair

• Research

In Eve there are various ships that can fulfill these roles, freighters, orcas, carriers, transports, logistics and so on, the idea of this thread however is to promote the idea of a specialized Non-combat ship class that could provide the above roles for extended periods of no pos/stations (enemy militia/SOV/w-space) in enemy space and could also redefine current black ops warfare.

Requirements:

• Small mass (200m kg or under) w-space capable & use of stargates
• Black ops jumpdrive (to resupply blops operations) No need to warp cloaked
• Corporate Hanger (for ease of resupply)
• Maintenance bay
• Hull repair amount bonus
• Probing bonus
• Fuel bay

This ship should never be able to allow refitting of tech 3 subsystems, my initial suggestion would for 2 joint project ships in this class. (amarr/caldari and minmatar/gallente) this of course would reflect well for lore for Eve lore as the militia factions are unable to dock in opposition owned systems.

I've seen interesting threads for very similar concepts before but felt they lacked any real reasoning behind them, combat logistics and auxiliary ships however have a huge impact on modern warfare.

I suggested a very similar ship in my ORE Ships thread. On the fly refitting and resupply is something that is.currently.being done with capitals and Orca's.

Capitals are not suitable for smaller, more agile group operations and Orcas are a mining ship that should not be near a front line, let alone behind the enemy's lines.

There is a valid opening for a ship of this kind.

I don't know about the black ops JD though.

So, a mini jump freighter with combat, scanning, logistics, refitting and corp hangers, as well as titan jump range and a tank that while not astounding, is a hell of a lot tougher than any other hauler? And you want what, 50-60km3 cargohold on that? (An Orca is ~150k isn't it?)

Lets just take a step back and think a minute, a few things I never mentioned were :

Jump range capabilities (I agree, this should be small)

Ability to use covert jump portal generators (A most definite no)

Some number suggestions for this Tech 2 ship concept

Fleet hanger 20k

Cargo 500m3

Fuel bay 5000m3

8k structure/5k armour/5k shield base hp

Maint bay 150k? the only reason for it is to help resupply/refit, and yes, it should be restricted to only covert ships.

The size of an orca meaning around 250m kg mass, volume 10m m3 as for its so called "logistics" capabilities I hardly feel that a maximum of 3 remote hull repairers would be even 'remotely' useful in a combat situation, even if they had a 100% bonus to strength (No range bonus), especially considering the amount of ISK any ship like this would cost but in an empty waypoint system it might be a benefit.

Like I say it is just a concept think of it like that for now, these numbers are pretty meaningless at the moment, its the concept I wanted to talk about.

:)

As stated in my previous posts without the capability of jumping to a covert cyno the idea has no merit, because you can simply use a carrier also, it wouldn't be able to jump into cyno jammed systems.
I cant see why people read this as a combat ship, its merely an idea for a covert logistics/auxiliary ship to support covert operations.



Like all of the numbers the size of a maint bay isn't important, even if it could only fit one stealth bomber I personally wouldn't be bothered, the only reason for its inclusion is for abilities it has.

20k fleet hanger
500 cargo
5k fuel
50k maint bay (only covert ships)
2 rigs, 2 highs, 3 mids, 2 lows
covert jumpdrive
no ability to fit bridging equipment
100% hull repair bonus

less than 6k base hp