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Gordon Esil
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2013-04-05 07:46:29 UTC
Hi

So I had a corp just started it, I had to leave it for few days, I put an alt in it to keep it open
When I joined I started a CEO vote to take back CEO from my alt, but then I messed it all up
CEO roles revoked from my alt, and to my knowledge he has Director roles
And by mistake I quit the corp as well, so basically now the corp description shows my alt as CEO but in fact he does not have any authorities and cannot accept any application

The CEO vote passed (only me and my alt voted) so after the vote period is complete I should take over CEO again, but my question, I'm now out of the corp and I cannot join it again and my alt does not have any roles
What will happen after 24 hours when the vote is ended? will my alt become CEO again since the one who got elected left the corp?

Or do I need to petition that?

* I know I screwed it up... I just woke up -.-

Thanks for your comments Big smile
Hollis Boirelle
Variables Unlimited
Urukian Collective
#2 - 2013-04-05 07:59:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Hollis Boirelle
Petition, I guess? That sounds like a really strange situation.

Next time, just make your alt a director then r-click yourself in the member list -> resign as CEO. It'll give you a list of eligible directors and you pick one to take over the CEO role.

Or the other way around to reverse the process.
Chal0ner
Hideaway Hunters
The Hideaway.
#3 - 2013-04-05 08:26:54 UTC
Hollis Boirelle wrote:
r-click yourself in the member list -> resign as CEO. It'll give you a list of eligible directors and you pick one to take over the CEO role.


This is how is should be done.
Gordon Esil
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#4 - 2013-04-05 08:47:48 UTC
What?What?
well, we learn from our mistakes Lol
Petition it is Ugh
Velicitia
XS Tech
#5 - 2013-04-05 09:39:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Velicitia
Hollis Boirelle wrote:
Petition, I guess? That sounds like a really strange situation.

Next time, just make your alt a director then r-click yourself in the member list -> resign as CEO. It'll give you a list of eligible directors and you pick one to take over the CEO role.

Or the other way around to reverse the process.



This is not how it works.

"R. Click -> resign as CEO" will list all corp members with skills to lead a corporation (i.e. corporation management of at least L1). In the event that there are no members that meet this criteria, then it will show all members of the corporation. This happens whether the member is a director or not.

Regardless of who takes over as CEO, the allowed size and races* will not change, unless the new CEO goes into corporation management and clicks the "Update with my Skills" button (or something like that). This is a bad thing to do, especially if you're buying a corp from someone (e.g. one of those standing services), because it's highly likely that they also have the skills to make 100+ man corporations.



*NOTE -- in the past, you used to need the skill "Ethnic Relations" to have off-race characters in your corporation (i.e. if you were gallente, you couldn't have Amarr, Caldari, or Minmnatar without the skill). I think they removed this mechanic in one of the patches/expansions in the past year or two, but I can't recall when it was.



ed -- if the other toon is still a director in the corp, he can process your application and bring you back in.

One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia
Gordon Esil
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#6 - 2013-04-05 10:26:09 UTC
Velicitia wrote:

ed -- if the other toon is still a director in the corp, he can process your application and bring you back in.

No the other toon is a normal member, I thought I had set him to director but now I am sure that I did not Ugh
Basically I'm stuck outside the corp because of foolish thing I did, I'm not sure what was I thinking about when I did that

Anyways I already sent a petition and I hope I get a quick response about it
Velicitia
XS Tech
#7 - 2013-04-05 10:47:17 UTC
Gordon Esil wrote:
Velicitia wrote:

ed -- if the other toon is still a director in the corp, he can process your application and bring you back in.

No the other toon is a normal member, I thought I had set him to director but now I am sure that I did not Ugh
Basically I'm stuck outside the corp because of foolish thing I did, I'm not sure what was I thinking about when I did that

Anyways I already sent a petition and I hope I get a quick response about it


how many members? just your alt? if so, he "should" be the CEO/director...

One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia
Major Trant
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2013-04-05 12:21:51 UTC
You have misread or missed something or maybe there is a display glitch, relog and recheck. A corp cannot be without a CEO, even if you are changing via a vote, the old CEO remains in office until the conclusion of the vote.

More information required.

Are there other players in the corp? If CEO has passed to one of them, you are at the mercy of their charity. No petition will change that.

Is your corp in a wardec? I believe you cannot reapply to the same corp for 7 days if an active wardec is ongoing.
Gordon Esil
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2013-04-05 12:29:37 UTC
Yes only me and my alt
The scenario was:
I started a vote to take over CEO with this char
CEO roles revoked on my alt
*Thinking* I gave my alt director when I joined it to the corp I left the corp with this char
Now my alt is the only one in corp with no CEO/Director roles
No way for me to join the corp again since there is only 1 toon in the corp with no powers or whatever to accept applications

So basically if the situation will get fixed by itself after the vote period is done (like my alt will be automatically the CEO again since he is the only one in corp) then I guess I'm fine
If after the vote ends I will fail to get CEO because I'm out of corp and cannot get in it again while leaving my alt with no roles then I guess I'm in an awkward position here... :/
Velicitia
XS Tech
#10 - 2013-04-05 14:01:24 UTC
Gordon Esil wrote:
Yes only me and my alt
The scenario was:
I started a vote to take over CEO with this char
CEO roles revoked on my alt
*Thinking* I gave my alt director when I joined it to the corp I left the corp with this char
Now my alt is the only one in corp with no CEO/Director roles
No way for me to join the corp again since there is only 1 toon in the corp with no powers or whatever to accept applications

So basically if the situation will get fixed by itself after the vote period is done (like my alt will be automatically the CEO again since he is the only one in corp) then I guess I'm fine
If after the vote ends I will fail to get CEO because I'm out of corp and cannot get in it again while leaving my alt with no roles then I guess I'm in an awkward position here... :/



it'll have to go to someone in the corp -- either your alt, or you (if it pulls you in, IDK how the takeover mechanic works if you're out of corp). As stated previously, a corp cannot be without a CEO.

One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia
Gordon Esil
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#11 - 2013-04-05 14:16:22 UTC
Velicitia wrote:

it'll have to go to someone in the corp -- either your alt, or you (if it pulls you in, IDK how the takeover mechanic works if you're out of corp). As stated previously, a corp cannot be without a CEO.

The thing is: it DOES show my alt's name as CEO in the corp info page, but in fact his powers are stripped due to the ongoing vote to change the CEO, so basically he is CEO by name only, anyways, I'll just wait for tomorrow and see how it will solve itself... if it actually can BearOops
Velicitia
XS Tech
#12 - 2013-04-05 14:39:37 UTC
Gordon Esil wrote:
Velicitia wrote:

it'll have to go to someone in the corp -- either your alt, or you (if it pulls you in, IDK how the takeover mechanic works if you're out of corp). As stated previously, a corp cannot be without a CEO.

The thing is: it DOES show my alt's name as CEO in the corp info page, but in fact his powers are stripped due to the ongoing vote to change the CEO, so basically he is CEO by name only, anyways, I'll just wait for tomorrow and see how it will solve itself... if it actually can BearOops



ah yeah, that's part of the take-over vote. The CEO get's locked out of all roles so they can't abscond with any corp assets (or cash) while under the vote.

One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia
Hollis Boirelle
Variables Unlimited
Urukian Collective
#13 - 2013-04-05 15:34:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Hollis Boirelle
Velicitia wrote:
Hollis Boirelle wrote:
Next time, just make your alt a director then r-click yourself in the member list -> resign as CEO. It'll give you a list of eligible directors and you pick one to take over the CEO role.



This is not how it works.

"R. Click -> resign as CEO" will list all corp members with skills to lead a corporation (i.e. corporation management of at least L1). In the event that there are no members that meet this criteria, then it will show all members of the corporation. This happens whether the member is a director or not.

Hah, that's an important distinction! Thanks for the clarification.

Gordon Esil wrote:
The thing is: it DOES show my alt's name as CEO in the corp info page, but in fact his powers are stripped due to the ongoing vote to change the CEO, so basically he is CEO by name only, anyways, I'll just wait for tomorrow and see how it will solve itself...
Good luck!
Aerik Erwi
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#14 - 2013-04-06 04:01:06 UTC
If it's just you and alts, set one alt to run the corp, and never change it. No need to confuzzle yourself with a vote.
Polaris Sagan
Doomheim
#15 - 2013-04-06 04:08:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Polaris Sagan
Buggered this post up via my phone so logged onto pc version to post below.
Polaris Sagan
Doomheim
#16 - 2013-04-06 04:16:45 UTC
From what I remember when I accepted the role at my old corp. You have to be on the character who its saying is CEO and go onto the members tab of the corporation window. Right click your name and select accept roles.
It should be there somewhere and should sort the problem.