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[Proposal] Correct Serious 9year Flaw
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Jalxan
EVE University
Ivy League
#61 - 2013-02-22 23:53:22 UTC
Totally agreed.

On a related note, can you maybe add a full role revamp to this? For example, I would love to get a role that can boot members from corporation, that aren't directors or CEO's. In multi-thousand person corporations, this significant flaw in corporation management makes it hard to deal with troublemakers.
Ydnari
Estrale Frontiers
#62 - 2013-02-22 23:58:17 UTC
Jalxan wrote:
Totally agreed.

On a related note, can you maybe add a full role revamp to this? For example, I would love to get a role that can boot members from corporation, that aren't directors or CEO's. In multi-thousand person corporations, this significant flaw in corporation management makes it hard to deal with troublemakers.


I'd really rather get this very easy-to-fix, focused issue fixed first, which can't be hard to fix as described in previous posts...

... and then sort out the mess that is roles in general, which will no doubt take ages.

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True Sight
Deep Freeze Industries
#63 - 2013-03-17 15:06:05 UTC
Quick Bump
Djana Libra
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#64 - 2013-03-18 08:05:41 UTC
Corp/Pos management could do with a decent fix.

On the pos labs n manufacturing units it can be very simple,
give them dedicated bays like you did with ships.

Just make Input, Blue Print and Output bay in a public and corp flavor where the corp one can be set to read only so ppl can install and deliver jobs but not take them. They would be able to use the public ones for their personal stuff. And make it so that the public slots can only be delivered by the person who installed the job and corp directors.

(This would also open up to ppl having high sec pos' renting out slots for isk)
Ydnari
Estrale Frontiers
#65 - 2013-03-28 17:40:50 UTC
Might there be a chance that the very specific, very simple to fix problem described in this thread - that anyone can untraceably cancel corp industry jobs, when it should only be the job installer or a Director - gets fixed in Odessey?

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Celly Smunt
Neutin Local LLC
#66 - 2013-04-03 16:55:56 UTC
Ydnari wrote:
Might there be a chance that the very specific, very simple to fix problem described in this thread - that anyone can untraceably cancel corp industry jobs, when it should only be the job installer or a Director - gets fixed in Odessey?



only time will tell unfortunately.

o/
Celly

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Caleb Ayrania
TarNec
Invisible Exchequer
#67 - 2013-04-05 21:00:14 UTC
I recently described a possible feature and workaround for many of these related issues..

Personal Division Hangars

With a PDH you could let any slot usage behave like personal when used from a corp POS.

The slots would show up on both corporate and personal list, but with cancel rights from CEO only.

A few more tweaks would ofc be needed, but it does seem to resolve some of this.

Also other members could be granted access to the PDH and thus take from that storage and even use private BPOs.

If someone has POS slot rights and take rights in the PDH of an active builder, that person can also cancel those private jobs.

Note personal access to PDH to other corp members can be granted by CEO or the PDH owner himself.

Just a few ideas that would help many POS issues.. and Station hangar issues..
Ydnari
Estrale Frontiers
#68 - 2013-04-09 18:17:03 UTC
Djana Libra
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#69 - 2013-04-12 13:42:46 UTC
Xantos Semah wrote:
I like to add few things that always annoyed me so much:

a) corporation hangars has only 7 tabs. For people living far from highsec and ussing POS is a nightmare, esspecially when you are about to recruit new people. Giving them access to tab 1 will give them access to other hangars tab 1 in other POS for example.



Well this is not entirely true since you can set the roles to be able to use a CHA/SMA higher than the role that grants them access, meaning if you set it up propper you can have a few levels of security on who can access which CHA/SMA but it's still not really safe. (which nothing in eve otta be) We used to run secure and unsecure hangars and sma's so we had 2 levels of security.

Other than that yes corp management is horribly broken, if people want to steel stuff they should make work off of it, gain trust, get roles etc.

And no only letting someone that put in the job cancel it is not a good idea, but being able to set multiple labs up with different role requirements to operate them would be.
Hawkwar
M.I.M.M.S
#70 - 2013-04-25 07:14:28 UTC
Agreed that roles are broken preventing industrial corporations from becoming truly huge enterprises. Also posting that CCP have known this for years and have done nothing and are likely to continue that trend as an increase in player numbers would overload the hamsters.......