Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Why is it whenever someone comes up with some crappy, half baked idea and gets shot down they cry "aversion to change"

Why is only 5% of the EVE population in WH's? Because it is hard. Everything that people take for granted everywhere else in EVE is a struggle for wormholes. Just restocking your system takes teamwork and significant time. We can go weeks sometimes without a good chain to empire for restocking so we have to plan ahead.

As such it attracts a certain breed of EVE player. And that breed of player is what makes WH life so amazing.

It isn't an aversion to change. It is that the changes you propose don't improve WH life in any way.

Even your arguments are half baked. You talk about people throwing swarms of ships at freighters? Yes they do it for PROFIT.

If I have to sacrifice a BS to get through a WH connection, well now I have to spend HOURS getting back to k-space, and restocking those ships. How is that better? More fun?

There are already plenty of pansies in W-space. They run to their forcefields the second they see an unknown sig and never leave even to scout it.

If you read through the thread you would have seen that I suggested this as a new seeding of WH-like systems.

I also gave arguments for why I would find an idea like Phase Space interesting.

The changes I suggest or rather the addition will make a lot more sense as new aspects and changes enter from other features. many of which I directly refer and link to..

I never admitted to my idea being crap. Personally i think the current system IS crap, and have since it was introduced. I admitted to the fact that people have grown accustomed to the crap and fitted it into their habits. The genius of those few EVE players, that "hack" the often half finished features, is the way EVE have survived.

The fact you call the Mittani article crap shows you either do not understand its merits, or again just dont want to have to chance your activity.

The Blue Donut, The Frequency trading, and the WH Cricket wars is grid locking the game. Something that players seem very adverse to changing by changing their habits. My point is we need features and novelty too freshen up the field.

Some major overhauls are needed but the most vital ones are those that integrate latterally, because they reduce the ccp dev time needed. That means small changes with huge consequences, whether that be broker fees and taxes or wormhole space logistics, or SOV equipment hitpoints.

I can say these things will happen, and its already discernible from the CCP comments in CSM7 and from visible features that are inactive or underpowered.

Metagame has nothing to do with the changes in that article it takes place fully beyond the client. The changes suggested in the Mittani article is about practical ingame freedom of movement and engagements with enemies, with a lot of added latteral effects like faction warfare and its faucets.

Great idea if you want fewer subscribing EVE players in wormholes...

Why exactly is it so accepted with a feature in game that is one way only?

Stabilizing in some way makes perfect sense to make the functionality two way?

The current mechanics have grown ingrained, and players have perfected working with them.

That does not mean a more complex feature should not be considered.

Getting rid of current system would be way to big a change, but adding a new layer on top of it would ad complexity and incentives to wormhole space.

I think it would work well balance wise with things like Stations and the largest tier ships.

Bringing in some of the mechanics from empire and from null would need a new balanced method. If not its just WH getting the benefits that originally did not belong there.

Phase Space as a concept makes this possible, creating a WH mechanic that is a lot like the old system, but with new ways to operate them. Its not gates, its not really wormholes, but they have something in between.

Not really understanding why and what benefits this change would bring other than perhaps making it easier to get started in WH space.

I will bring this to its predictable and logical end.

Stable Wormhole. Add Local. Add SOV. Add door hitting WH dwellers arse on way out.

Raptors

I hope you do understand that what you're proposing will give null sec a safe & short route to hi sec for freighters protected by friends and without the risk being jumped by WH dwellers

Or is it what you want?

The only good idea that any of the CSM candidates voiced this year was Kwark's vision of wormholes being the byproduct of mindless raging space worms that tunnel through the great unknown, leaving behind destruction (and connections!) in their wake.

So you 5 current candidates better consider yourself lucky that he forgot to register because we all know who would've won THIS space race!

Dear OP.

The reason we are all against is because of the effects you do not foresee. If you had the chance to expand or increase the mass of a wh. It is a matter of days (not even weeks) before youd see wh's more similar to zero sec with titans and supers and mega blobs (more than we already have).

Most people joined wh's because we like the limit of what you can bring through the WH. Any way to increase the size of a wh is a bad idea because it increases the blob without increasing the effort.

This, above, is the long explanation of the past two pages of "no".

Go live in a wh and see how it is done before you propose change.