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Want to go to nullsec but ive been ruined by highsec.

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TrollFace TrololMcFluf
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#21 - 2011-10-31 06:14:34 UTC
Karn Dulake wrote:
KrakizBad wrote:
Pay 0% on the 1M/hour you make now, or 10% on 50M/hour. Your choice.




lols i make 50 million isk an hour in highsec i am richer than most people in this game. i gave away 7 billion isk in cap ship BPOS as i just did not use them. So please nullsec person you have no idea about the isk generation going on in highsec.



You think your rich you think 50m/hour is a lot you are nothing more than a pathetic little maggot people like you are unfit to be in nullsec in the first place as we will quickly throw you off that high horse of yours and proceed to beat you to death with it.

PS. giving away your isk so freely also makes you a fool
Dalloway Jones
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#22 - 2011-10-31 07:50:01 UTC
I think people who whine and get all emo about in game taxes of imaginary money are hilarious.
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#23 - 2011-10-31 08:11:29 UTC
Karn Dulake wrote:
Im not talking about easy wealth for no risk im talking about tax rates.

Ever since ive been in this game ive sat in corporations with no tax. I supply my own ships for pew pew and i make all my own isk. i dont pay for other peoples mistakes only my own.

I would like to go to nullsec but i just cant find it in my heart to pay 15% tax to a nullsec corp.


Question.

Are there any corp/alliances out there that take a fixed fee per player every month for SOV upkeep or is it all percentages.


If not then......Damn you highsec Damn you to hell.



I only pay 8%, but I don't grudge it. A good corp does a hell of a lot for its members.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#24 - 2011-10-31 08:12:46 UTC
Karn Dulake wrote:
Venus Vermillion wrote:
Do your High-Sec Corps reimburse lost ships? Do they provide new ships to newbies who join the corp so that they can always be ensured to be in the fight tackling and making your job easier? Do your high-sec corps own entire stations across entire reactions of space?

Yeah, didn't figure they did.

15% tax is nothing.



dont all of those tech moons pay for SOV or do people need to pay there rent in real life

also we pay for our own mistakes not other peoples no ships re imbursement


Not all ships are lost due to "mistakes" by the pilot.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Florestan Bronstein
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#25 - 2011-10-31 08:22:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Florestan Bronstein
Malcanis wrote:
Karn Dulake wrote:
Venus Vermillion wrote:
Do your High-Sec Corps reimburse lost ships? Do they provide new ships to newbies who join the corp so that they can always be ensured to be in the fight tackling and making your job easier? Do your high-sec corps own entire stations across entire reactions of space?

Yeah, didn't figure they did.

15% tax is nothing.



dont all of those tech moons pay for SOV or do people need to pay there rent in real life

also we pay for our own mistakes not other peoples no ships re imbursement


Not all ships are lost due to "mistakes" by the pilot.

would even go as far as saying that more often than not the only way not to lose your ship is making "mistakes" Twisted

you get called primary, you die.

your FC makes a bad decision, you die.

you get disconnected or are stuck in lag, you die.

enemy has good dictor pilots, you die.

your fleet doctrine is poorly suited to the occasion, you die.

the only ones that die because of their own retardedness are stragglers, pretty much everyone else has little to no influence over his death.

the ones who don't die have usually become adept at ignoring FC orders when necessary for their own survival
(which is not good at all as sometimes your FC knows things you don't or your own death might just be an acceptable casualty in the greater scheme of things but having no reimbursements encourages this "every man on his own" behavior).

"your own mistakes" is a concept for solo pvp

mfw you rage about not getting reimbursed in your 0% tax corp after your FC whelped the whole fleet.

(also good moons are usually alliance property but your corp needs money, too)
Twisted Alice
Doomheim
#26 - 2011-10-31 09:22:16 UTC
Op are you trolling,


NPC corps tax is actually higher than most player corps at 11%
CCP Spitfire
C C P
C C P Alliance
#27 - 2011-10-31 09:22:51 UTC
Inappropriate posts removed. Please keep the discussion civil.

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FluffyDice
Kronos Research
#28 - 2011-10-31 09:47:18 UTC
Karn Dulake wrote:
Dbars Grinding wrote:
Im so rich i deleted a toon that had 500bil in his wallet.



i think what you meant to say was that you just posted the most pointless post in the history of EVE forums


And yet it was better than the basis of this thread "Im so amazingly rich wtf why do i have to pay 15% of my earnings to corp".

You have to pay because your a **** and nobody wants to fly with you otherwise.
Holy One
Privat Party
#29 - 2011-10-31 10:52:16 UTC
Karn Dulake wrote:
KrakizBad wrote:
Pay 0% on the 1M/hour you make now, or 10% on 50M/hour. Your choice.




lols i make 50 million isk an hour in highsec i am richer than most people in this game. i gave away 7 billion isk in cap ship BPOS as i just did not use them. So please nullsec person you have no idea about the isk generation going on in highsec.


You have inadvertedly hit upon the main issue with nullsec - if you are not there to make isk, there's no point being there. Except if, like my corp, you exhist solely to grief people trying to make isk. I'd say that is my only incentive to continue playing eve and the only source of enjoyment in this terrible mmo tbh.

Sov null? I'd rather eat my own feaces.

So yeah, I understand where you are coming from, but 'making isk' as you seem to have done, gets boring after the first 10bn or so ..

:)
Hexus Draidin
Intersteller Masons
#30 - 2011-10-31 12:52:27 UTC
Karn Dulake wrote:
Im not talking about easy wealth for no risk im talking about tax rates.

Ever since ive been in this game ive sat in corporations with no tax. I supply my own ships for pew pew and i make all my own isk. i dont pay for other peoples mistakes only my own.

I would like to go to nullsec but i just cant find it in my heart to pay 15% tax to a nullsec corp.


Question.

Are there any corp/alliances out there that take a fixed fee per player every month for SOV upkeep or is it all percentages.


If not then......Damn you highsec Damn you to hell.


There are several null sec corps that charge negligible tax. The trade-off is that most of them are PVP based and require that you make a kill quota. I imagine it is manageable to balance PVP and PVE effectively.

Also, don't go around bragging about your high sec isk and low tax rate. You're bound to get war dec'd by individuals that resent high sec carebearing. So long to risk free wealth.

I'm So Meta, Even This Acronym 
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#31 - 2011-10-31 13:10:28 UTC
Florestan Bronstein wrote:

the ones who don't die have usually become adept at ignoring FC orders when necessary for their own survival
(which is not good at all as sometimes your FC knows things you don't or your own death might just be an acceptable casualty in the greater scheme of things but having no reimbursements encourages this "every man on his own" behavior).


Hmmm well I would prefer to say that you should intelligently interpret FC orders. If half the enemy fleet yellowboxes you and you're not tackled, then it shouldn't require an FC order to prompt you to GTFO.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Karn Dulake
Doomheim
#32 - 2011-10-31 14:25:08 UTC
Holy One wrote:
Karn Dulake wrote:
KrakizBad wrote:
Pay 0% on the 1M/hour you make now, or 10% on 50M/hour. Your choice.




lols i make 50 million isk an hour in highsec i am richer than most people in this game. i gave away 7 billion isk in cap ship BPOS as i just did not use them. So please nullsec person you have no idea about the isk generation going on in highsec.


You have inadvertedly hit upon the main issue with nullsec - if you are not there to make isk, there's no point being there. Except if, like my corp, you exhist solely to grief people trying to make isk. I'd say that is my only incentive to continue playing eve and the only source of enjoyment in this terrible mmo tbh.

Sov null? I'd rather eat my own feaces.

So yeah, I understand where you are coming from, but 'making isk' as you seem to have done, gets boring after the first 10bn or so ..



You are on the money all the way my friend. Yeah it gets boring real fast and ive gotten so bored that im using my main on the forum threads.

i kinda see this as the helium burning stage of my EVE career.
I dont normally troll, but when i do i do it on General Discussion.
Soporo
#33 - 2011-10-31 15:35:32 UTC
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Sov null? I'd rather eat my own feaces.


Big smile Yeah, lotta people hate it. But honestly, eating someone elses hot steamy would be worse.

Not many people mind up to a 10% tax rate, there's plenty of Isk to be had, but what's annoying is when they jack the tax rate up to 100% to force fleet/ops participation.

Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats. - H.L. Mencken
Satav
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#34 - 2011-10-31 15:45:21 UTC
Wow........ really dude?

your complaining about tax? Do have any idea what it takes to run a 0.0 alliance? Obviously not.

But since you're thinking only about yourself and not the big picture (which in the long run is of most benefit to you btw.)

Let's put it in terms that you can understand.

Highsec.

Anywhere from 10-50 million per hour, depending on number of tunes and profession.

0.0

Anywhere from 100-300 million per hour, depending on number of tunes and profession. (-15%)

So at Max in Highsec, 50 million (rough estimate) no tax.

Or 0.0 a conservative 100 million (rough estimate) 15% tax.

You're making 35 million more an hour. plus you have all the benefits of living in 0.0.

Also this is conservative, as i myself make 4-5 times as much in 0.0 than in highsec with my professions. (ratting, mining, trading.)

So shush with the tax whining.

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Diomedes Calypso
Aetolian Armada
#35 - 2011-10-31 15:46:30 UTC
seriously,

the atttitude that you're getting ripped off if someone else might be making money on top of what you make is such a petty jealous way of viewing the world it is beyond me.

Unfortunately it is too common in the game world and in real life.

A small piece of a big pie can be still alot more pied than all of a small one

Just look at the pie you got, not the pie the other guy has.

On top ot that , the premise that someone is profitting off the taxes at all or certainly at a higher isk per hour of adminsitrative time necessary to run an alliance than if they had spent the same hours earning at the high rate you do, is off the mark.

.
Rico Minali
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#36 - 2011-10-31 15:51:06 UTC
My corp pays 15% tax, and are glad to do it, with an srf that repays when you lose multi hundred million isk ships coupled with the fact that we buy our pilots capital skills along with carriers and dreadnaughts.


If you cant see yourself to 'losing' 15% of your income, im afraid you simply arnt worth having in corp.

Trust me, I almost know what I'm doing.
Karn Dulake
Doomheim
#37 - 2011-10-31 16:02:42 UTC
Everything that you have said is true


But there is nothing like baiting a thread to pull out some nullsec tears and this one has worked wonders
I dont normally troll, but when i do i do it on General Discussion.
Taedrin
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#38 - 2011-10-31 16:04:33 UTC
KrakizBad wrote:
Pay 0% on the 1M/hour you make now, or 10% on 50M/hour. Your choice.


From what I understand, making money in 0.0 for your average rank-and-file grunt is just about equivalent to level 4 mission running, except that it is a lot more stressful thanks to having your eyes glued to local and intel channels constantly, and spamming the D-scan button if there's an AFK cloaker in system.

And with the sanctum nerf most rank-and-file grunts are probably making LESS money overall than their level 4 mission grinding alts in high sec.

Yeah sure, it is POSSIBLE to make 10 times as much money if you are smart and/or lucky. But most people aren't.
Karn Dulake
Doomheim
#39 - 2011-10-31 16:09:15 UTC
Taedrin wrote:
KrakizBad wrote:
Pay 0% on the 1M/hour you make now, or 10% on 50M/hour. Your choice.


From what I understand, making money in 0.0 for your average rank-and-file grunt is just about equivalent to level 4 mission running, except that it is a lot more stressful thanks to having your eyes glued to local and intel channels constantly, and spamming the D-scan button if there's an AFK cloaker in system.

And with the sanctum nerf most rank-and-file grunts are probably making LESS money overall than their level 4 mission grinding alts in high sec.

Yeah sure, it is POSSIBLE to make 10 times as much money if you are smart and/or lucky. But most people aren't.




quoted for truth +1
I dont normally troll, but when i do i do it on General Discussion.
Potato IQ
Doomheim
#40 - 2011-10-31 16:10:07 UTC
I generally find that having a good point to a thread makes it more interesting. As I understand it, you have a mountain of virtual currency and are reluctant to lose the tax benefits you enjoy at present in the most tedious area this game has to offer. Yawn. Send me some of this wasted isk as I’ll use it appropriately by, you know, killing sh!t
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