Player Features and Ideas Discussion

This have probably been talked about or suggested somewhere already, but anyway.

I bet we all have done it, logging in only to find that nothing is being trained..
How can we prevent this nastyness from happening?

You could download and install EVEMon or similar to help reminding of skill queues. But those programs should only be needed to help with planning of skills I think. They should not function as an essential addon to cover for a bad game mechanic?

So here is a simple and sane solution (in theory):

CCP Devs, please make it so that skill points are earned at all time, as long as you have an active account.
I know others have been requesting the ability to set longer training queues, but this would be an even better solution I think.

Once you have a character that runs out of skills to train, the SP would keep adding to "Unallocated Skillpoints".
Or why not take it a step further and say that as long as you have an account you would get Unallocated Skillpoints to distribute as you like between your 3 characters.


Just some thoughts, feel free to add more about Skill Training.

Yes they want us to log in and play so that we hopefully get blown up and thus will have to replace our ships etc..
But wouldn't it be even better to strive to make EVE awesome and get more subsribers in the long run?

Edit: And come to think about it I don't think CCP really cares if you keep your accounts logged in or not.

Longer training queues, fine.

Unallocated SP accumulating? No.

Because people would simply stop training as soon as there are rumours about a new ship class and simply spend the unallocated points on day one of release.

Evemon is a must, and if you can't manage to log in and change your skill when its done, then you deserve not to get any SP.
Yes think we all have tried to log in and se your char is not training, but that's just bad luck :)
If you want SP, then remember to log in hehe

As opposed to flying through planets and other real life simulations ingame?

I think it would be only fair, after all the subscription continues to run and draw from our real life money even though we log out.
And the more I think of this the more sense my suggestion makes (in my head).

It would be very cool to have a dev reply to this thread with an opinion, good or bad.

Well, I'm sorry but I feel the need to correct you there. It is a well known fact that many MMO's try to encourage people to multiplay rather than solo play. The reason for this is that players who multiplay are more likely to stay with the game. If more people are online, then the in theory your chances of multiplaying goes up.

If there are no people online, your chances of multiplaying are zero.


Aside from that, I don't think skill changing really encourages people to actually play. I used to log in an number of times a day for the sole purpose of changing skill. This was before the skill queue.

However, your idea is flawed. I have i nfact thought of the excact same thing. But there is one thing you have not accounted for:
Some skills will inevitably train faster than others due to attribute distribution. If I was optimised for gunnery skills and elected to use my accumulated SP for industry skills, I would essentially just ignore the whole attribute systen.

A solution for this could be to have the accumulation at a minimum rate of SP/h, but it would still mean aloss of SP in the long run.

From the dev blog:

As much as I would like a 48hr queue, skill points to spend, dual training, or a back long queue, that just isn't in the cards. A 24hr queue is good enough and a lot better than what players where stuck with before. I was able to train a lot of half done and mid level skills with it. Fact is that, after awhile, you find yourself with queues that weeks long putting things to 5.

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for a buff to this system, but freebie-points will not work in Eve. It fails as it does not take into account attributes. You need to pick a skill, consider the attributes, and schedule it. From there, get clever. Use the Eve calendar, send an alt an evemail, check eve gate, etc. Again, I am all for a buff to the system (48hr queue FTW), but spending SP I am not for (and yes I would love it if they did it).

Ditto, and we didn't even have it when I started.

The issue isn't solved with this.

Just because a player has to log on every so often to update their skill que doesn't mean that they're actually playing the game.

To me activity means logging on and running missions, mining, pirating, null sec, wh, low sec, whatever.

Actually playing the game is what I consider activity.

So whether they're logging in every 2 days to check skills, or whether they log on and sec a 1 yr training que.

It's not different.

They're still not actively engaging in game play.

So might as well allow them to set long ques.

And I will counter that by saying.

The people that are only logging on to update skills are typcially people with an alt character or alt account.

So they're probably online talking a playing with a character they already have set up the way they wish.

I've always wanted to say this...

Working as intended. Shut up and go back to mining your veldspar. You don't like it? Then fill the bloody que, take five minutes, and log on every morning too fill it up again.