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Gravimetric Icebelt sites? Why do they not exist?
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Tennessee Jack
Doomheim
#1 - 2013-04-02 19:22:38 UTC
I was going to put this in the suggestion area, but I find myself asking "why" more than "could you do it".

So we have Gravimetric sites that spawn ore, the lifeblood of all manufacturing. Yet we do not have any Ice Belts that can be found through exploration. So why do they not exist? I would think this would be an option for those who icemine, or for those who live in wormholes, or low, or null, or heck even high. They probe down a site, find its ice, and... well mine it.

Just curious why it's not in game.
Spondoo Lix
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2013-04-02 19:23:43 UTC
Because ice doesn't run out?
Berluth Luthian
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2013-04-02 19:29:30 UTC
OOOOooh...proving the CAUSE of the non-existence of something... that's a pretty tough logical/rhetorical problem to argue over.
Hobgo Togenada
Tinfoil Hat Club
#4 - 2013-04-02 19:54:39 UTC
Ask your local Goonswarm representative!

It was their decision!

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Tennessee Jack
Doomheim
#5 - 2013-04-02 20:00:47 UTC
Spondoo Lix wrote:
Because ice doesn't run out?


But don't Grav Sites disappear after 2 or 3 days? And from my understanding, in lowsec/nullsec/wormholes, the Grav sites probed out are generally so massive that it would take a armada of Hulk's mining it 24/7 to possibly actually finish it off in 2 or so days?
Jacid
Corvix.
#6 - 2013-04-02 20:05:02 UTC
Because why would you mine in a grav site when you can just mine in a belt... The only flip side to this would be if grav sites had null sec ice in them.. might make worth doing

My 2 Cents
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#7 - 2013-04-02 20:11:27 UTC
Jacid wrote:
Because why would you mine in a grav site when you can just mine in a belt... The only flip side to this would be if grav sites had null sec ice in them.. might make worth doing

My 2 Cents



Yes, if they had Dark Glitter in them especially.

This would not stop ISBoxers but would stop Bots. That's really the only advantage.

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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#8 - 2013-04-02 20:13:00 UTC
There are no probes for ice.

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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#9 - 2013-04-02 20:14:16 UTC
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
There are no probes for ice.



For once your logic is "oops".

There are probes for Grav Sites.

That's where the Ice would be.

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Markku Laaksonen
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#10 - 2013-04-02 20:59:57 UTC
There is no gravity in ice. Learn to science. kthxbai

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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#11 - 2013-04-02 21:05:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Krixtal Icefluxor
Markku Laaksonen wrote:
There is no gravity in ice. Learn to science. kthxbai



Actually, tell the OP. It was his idea.

Edit: also, Ice has mass, therefore, GRAVITY.

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Arronicus
State War Academy
Caldari State
#12 - 2013-04-02 21:09:36 UTC
Tennessee Jack wrote:
Spondoo Lix wrote:
Because ice doesn't run out?


But don't Grav Sites disappear after 2 or 3 days? And from my understanding, in lowsec/nullsec/wormholes, the Grav sites probed out are generally so massive that it would take a armada of Hulk's mining it 24/7 to possibly actually finish it off in 2 or so days?



A single player with 6 hulks and a rorq running boosts can Cycle a large grav site multiple times in 1 day. Hardly an armada.
Tennessee Jack
Doomheim
#13 - 2013-04-02 21:13:17 UTC
Arronicus wrote:
Tennessee Jack wrote:
Spondoo Lix wrote:
Because ice doesn't run out?


But don't Grav Sites disappear after 2 or 3 days? And from my understanding, in lowsec/nullsec/wormholes, the Grav sites probed out are generally so massive that it would take a armada of Hulk's mining it 24/7 to possibly actually finish it off in 2 or so days?



A single player with 6 hulks and a rorq running boosts can Cycle a large grav site multiple times in 1 day. Hardly an armada.


So 1 guy with 7 accounts.....

Did not answer Ops question though. Why don't they exist?
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#14 - 2013-04-02 21:56:55 UTC
Until there is vodka, there won't be rocks to put it on. P

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Jacid
Corvix.
#15 - 2013-04-02 22:13:35 UTC
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
Until there is vodka, there won't be rocks to put it on. P

Someone needs to make a new forum post for Quafe Vodka Big smile
Tennessee Jack
Doomheim
#16 - 2013-04-02 22:16:48 UTC
Jacid wrote:
Because why would you mine in a grav site when you can just mine in a belt... The only flip side to this would be if grav sites had null sec ice in them.. might make worth doing

My 2 Cents


Probably the first constructive answer someone gave. That and I would have to agree with that assertion.

Well I figure mining in belts.. That's not what I'm aiming at. I'm curious why they haven't just adjusted the whole ice belt concept, and incorporate them into exploration itself. There are actually people out there who would want to probe out belts, especially lowsec/nullsec/wormhole corporations.

I'm somewhat considering this question more for lowsec, nullsec and wormholes, though I can see this applying to highsec also.
Solhild
Doomheim
#17 - 2013-04-02 22:36:49 UTC
Well hopefully with the mining update, static everlasting ice belts will go and be replaced by ice in grav sites (rings/comets etc.) - redistribution of resources and all that Shocked
Mr Kidd
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#18 - 2013-04-02 22:50:05 UTC
If ice was in grav sites, how would you expect the bots to find them?

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Felicity Love
Doomheim
#19 - 2013-04-02 22:54:14 UTC
Solhild wrote:
Well hopefully with the mining update, static everlasting ice belts will go and be replaced by ice in grav sites (rings/comets etc.) - redistribution of resources and all that Shocked


Hopefully this will be the case.

Some ice belts actually did get nerfed about 4-5 years ago, as there aren't nearly so many in High Sec (at least) as there used to be.

And, as others have said -- ice never realistically depletes. Which, ironically, if it were most other substances people would be screaming "imbalance" and pitching a tantie in Jita over it.

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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#20 - 2013-04-02 23:41:18 UTC
Jacid wrote:
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
Until there is vodka, there won't be rocks to put it on. P

Someone needs to make a new forum post for Quafe Vodka Big smile



Imagine this commercial for Bacardi and Cola, but for Quafe and Vodka and on a Gallente Pleasure cruiser.

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