EVE General Discussion

I was just doing a little thinking, and I was wondering what Eve would be like with a change to how the warp system works.

Currently as you all know, warping is as easy as reaching 3/4 max velocity (usually) and hitting warp in a line to your destination. While the align system functions in a way that rewards pointing your ship in the direction you want to warp it, I have taken to consideration today that that seems more accessible for some and less accessible for others. So I thought maybe a rebalancing may be worth looking at.

Let's say that aligning your ship no longer matters as much, and now what matters is actually charging your warp drive.

A frigate, sitting at 0 velocity wants to warp. It activates warp. Now it enters warp mode and the velocity indicator changes from speed to warp drive charge percentage. When a ship reaches 100% warp drive charge it may enter warp. What does this do? This means a frigate may align to a target if it wishes but now it must spool up its warp drive to leave the grid.

So say for example a 0-100 charge on a frigate is 5-6 seconds.
Cruisers are 10-13 seconds.
Battleships are 15-20 seconds.
Tech 1 Industrials are 15-20 seconds (similar core to a battleship)
Freighters are 40-50 seconds.
etc


This would change some things, but permit some other things. What it may change is it would remove MWD/Cloaking. Though it works as intended, I don't believe it was really ever 'intended.' Believe it or not, that actually would injure me as I enjoy zipping around in my Occator safe from getting thumped by Tornadoes. But it also adds a risk cost to almost every ship involved. Actually, many a time, you slap a MWD onto your ship and boom you are instantly rewarded with 10 second align times. That seems to break the spirit of a ship classification if you can make every ship act much nimbler than it seems.

Now charging the warp drive would actually decrease capacitor as it charges. That means activating warp no longer has an immediate penalty, and cap can be saved if you stop warp halfway through the old align cycle, so to speak.

So how could one improve their warp drive charge times? Fit a new module, rig or implant called a Warp Drive Harmonizer (could also be Warp Drive Regulator or Warp Drive Aligner (hah)). At any rate these would increase the rate at which a ship charges its warp drive.

Anyway I think this would certainly change quite a few things, but it would definitely put Eve back in line with "massively multiplayer" and force individuals to work together more. I know it'd personally set me back some, but the idea is to redesign the way the warp system works so people can't just have instant warp times for free any more because they took a moment of forethought before any proverbial crap hit the fan. It would reward a system of actual ship fittings, and not just simple alignment movement in space. Though aligning to the target will still be required, it's not a free way out any longer.

Edit: What this post is trying to convey is bring meaning back to wanting to leave a grid. Don't have leaving a grid be as simple as just aligning then warping whenever you want any longer. Make the decision to leave a grid have a consequence in the form of a time penalty associated to it.

Thanks.

you mean if you get camped in station you have no options to get out. So either clone jump or logoff. I would choose logoff and other game this way.

Maybe i'm wrong here but i think your idea will seriously reduce amount of PvP in low/0.0. Why? Because of:
1) multiplayer only mode - so if i'm the only one logged on now i can't do anything
2) no insta-warp - if small gang is in station and bigger one closed exit - there is no chances for small gang to undock/warp out/regroup and go to fight. They will need to fight surrounded. Or they will just sit and wait.

NOW we can catch those filthy reds that undock from Hek Boundless Creation Factory without having to bump them!
AND everyone else that we just want to gank!
INCLUDING wartargets that try to get away! NOW YOU DIE!

excellent idea!
















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So, in order to create PVP, we must make it utterly impossible for singular players to move about safely in nulsec or lowsec.

In order to create PVP, we must remove insurance.

In order to create PVP, we must remove local.

In order to create PVP, we must remove incentives that actually encourage PVP or provide opportunities for one-sided ganking that somehow is supposed to encourage 'group play'.

I like the direction you're going with that, but I don't like the fact that you're turning a mostly skill-based game into a game of chance.

If you wanted to go that route though, let's say that a warp disruptor has a cycle time of 1 second. Each second the disruptor checks the target ship to see if it is activating its warp drive. If it is, it disables the warp drive for a duration of time (say 10 seconds, similar to how ewar works right now.) That means you can technically hold a variety of ships on a grid for a period as long as they're not slamming the crap out of you.

A ship can fit a warp core stabilizer which would allow the warp drive to continue spooling up (like it is now) but would slow down the warp process significantly if you're actually being pointed. THIS is where the chance-based effect should be, perhaps with a skill called Warp Core Harmonics, which increases the chance for a WCS to get you into warp by say 5% per level, with the module being a default 25%. You wouldn't need more than one though, no matter how many points are applied to you. I believe this would facilitate a need to either fit a WCS and gimp your set up or not fit one and have a full set.

Infinite points however completely knock the warp drive out of alignment and it can't compensate.

So... what you're saying is that you want to massively buff Gatecamps.


While what CCP is saying is that they want to slightly nerf them (the RSEBO nerf is aimed squarely at LS camps)....

Hmmmm...