Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Yeah what would I know about PvP I'm just in Pandemic Legion. I should join someone elite to prove my personal pvp prowess.



Sure, but let's stop being so pretentious with things like : "There's a lot of people that think that fit's just the best fit in the world, but I've found it's just outright inferior for my purposes"

and thinking we should balance around your very specific fit rather than what people are flying regularly.



You flatter me Sir, I am but a talented amateur.

I dunno man. The idiot 3 month old noobs and veteran blobbers that only barely know how to press F1 are everywhere in the game (including in your alliance). Just because someone's in (or not in) null sec doesn't really mean a whole lot about their general ability to PVP. My general dismissal of your POV hinges entirely on your insistence on speaking about something you don't know anything about.

IMO: learn what the **** you're talking about and then come talk to me about how my ships fly, k?



This is where you're being really stupid. I never said they shouldn't go forward with the nerf. I said they should, though I admitted that it'd make the Talos (and Tier 3s as a whole) immensely less useful to me. Grath insisted that I was being chicken little and dared me to ~poast numbers~ that showed why I hold the opinion I do.

Which I did. Which you tried to "correct" and "massage" and "forum warrior". So, kindly learn to read m8?

-Liang

Yea, you'll need to either A) stop trying to fight at 50km with a short raned weapon system (shortest range weapons system actually) or B) change your fit.

Yeah Naomi, those drones mean so much. I sense some drone envy. Oh look the ships are being used in roughly equal numbers and in fact it is the Talos that is behind the others in the usage numbers. Your Naga is doing fine, you Amarr posting alt of a Caldari chauvinist.

I see very little wrong with these proposed adjustments to tier 3s (Attack BCs). Afterall, I have no idea what they are going to do to make HACs worthwhile without making them OP if they don't nerf these BCs. And these nerfs one could view as even timid. But it is refreshing to see some moderate touch to nerfing instead of the old battle axe or sledge hammer approach.

Thanks Naomi, for not getting upset with my tweak of you. But to address your wonderment, the Naga is getting good usage because to be frank 10% optimal bonuses on Caldari ships is a very good bonus. I think it is really overdone. 7.5% would be sufficient.

But realistically I don't think they will tone them down. The most egregious example is the Cormorant. If any destroyer and small turret should be hitting at 100km it should be a beam laser. But this is EVE where "hypersonic speeds" are faster than the speed of light in a vacuum. Or maybe because all those particles in space are diffusing the beam of concentrated photons over the relatively short distance of 100km

I'm not a physicist but intuitively it just seems that a beam of light should have the most range because its speed would be the fastest. So the only limiting factor to range would be the abilities of the computers and turning mechanisms of the turrets themselves. These things presumably would be difficult to keep secret with all the ships that are freely sold, flown, get stolen, or assploded into salvageable wrecks, in eve. But maybe the Amarr spies are so fail due to being easily ferreted out with religious tests that they cannot/will not evade as most spies should.

Eve, can't live with its oddities, can't live without them.

You'll have to wait for WiS. You roll your eyes? On that day I know I could be looking for Naomi. 100mil per view, tickets on sale. Fap fap fap

editited - to raise the ticket price because we are both that hot, really

-20km locking range on all tier 3...

well done CCP for sending another ship class into unusable-****-category

Er...what?

Yeah, try reading it again.

Locking range didn't change.

The proposed changes won't be felt at all, and attack BCs will still be the primary choice of FCs. Plus I agree that these still far overshadow the combat BCs.

You need to put more separation between BS and BC damage...I think taking away a weapon slot is the way to go.

These people post in threads about balancing.

Hahaha.