EVE General Discussion

Ah, but would you recognise one without the GSF tag?

Similarly, how likely is it that you would dismiss a post on grounds of 'superiority' because it contains a goon Point of View?

How about something unexpected from someone with a GSF tag? Would you even bother reading?

Your preconceived notions will be fulfilled, your brain shall see to that. Of course it will also see to conveniently ignoring the exceptions

In other words, people hate people in game for the exact same reasons people hate people out of game. Goons are the "damn dirty hippies" of EVE it seems.

let me try:
- every thread about mining barges, gangs, pvp and nullsec. whatever people say the most stupid posts you can see from people with GSF mark. Someone from them havent' this mark but they post "yes, we are goons" in another threads
- posts with word 'pubbies". Noone except goonies use this word.

So yes, most of a time you see goony even without GSF mark


well. almost every post with word 'pubbies' is automatically ignored by me. It doesn't matter which point of view included author. His opinion is not worth the attention.


usually i read post before looking at author. And yes, i dont' care who is author if post is written politely and contain interesting point of view.
To give an example: Marlona Sky. Most of a time he/she writes good posts. Very unusual for GSF members i guess.


people say: exceptions only prove the rule

Bullshit.

Marlona Sky isn't in GSF, and in any case I think most Goons make much better posts than he does.

Oh I didn't mean that it was a dull grind for Goons, your higher level of organization brings more opportunity and choice. And better support for those choices.

Rather as Alavaria said, its a grind for the people who end up at odds with such a machine. This kind of dichotomy exists in most hobbies and games. People play for different reasons with different goals and levels of commitment and time considerations, and yet the playing field is the same for all participants.

The easiest way for a player to buffer oneself against loss to a superior competitor is to demonize them and to tell oneself that had all things been equal (time to practice, equipment, coaching) it would have been a fair fight. The mental landing point of this apparatus is "Goons are cheating bastards."

Its just one of those things that is easy to believe and so people do, nothing to do with the truth.

Lesson time:

Reference to Wal-Mart is when they move into a neighborhood they destroy the community inside out.

It's a cancer on civilization. And one that needs to leave.

Word to the wise.

Though I've never had any interaction with the Goons in Eve, I've played on the same team with them in other games (never been a SA member because.. you know... tenbux) and like any large organization some of them are real jerks but for the most part their main concern usually seems to come down to 'are we having fun?'. Yeah, every once in a while they seem to be overly negative about certain things and can occasionally throw a tantrum or two, but overall everyone I've played with has been a good guy.

As for how 'serious' they are, I think one of the main reasons they do as well as they do is the freedom that they allow their members to do what they want. A lot of guilds/corps/whatever end up tearing apart because different people have different expectations of others and feel slighted if they don't feel like they are 'pulling their weight'. This leads to burnout and a lot of drama. Goons enter in full well knowing that members are allowed to do what they want, and seem to thrive on the drama.

I know personally that, due to RL commitments, I will never be able to join most super serious spaceship groups even though I would like to experience it someday. It's nice to know that there are some new person friendly (even if it is only for forum members new players, it's not like it's hard to join if you really want) groups out there that still let people have fun playing the game without having to devote their life to it.

Anyway, this is from the perspective of other games (notably GW2 and PS2)

Caldari Citizen 1897289768188: Wasn't your name HolyShocker or something along those lines? It never ocured to me that it was censor bait.