Ships & Modules

this is really spot on.

A teir 1 ship cant get a faction or recon bonus to help it, especially while the rest of the new class are left out with only direct sweapon bonuses.

Now if you wanted to change all tracking bonuses on all teir 1 gall ships to 5% (not 10%) per level of web strength, that would be somthing, and then make sense for the new teir 3 bc to have 5% strength too.

in all honesty, the web str bonus leaves me torn: it is a good bonus, and pretty much needed to make blasters work, but, it also feels like using bandaids to patch up a gunshot wound.

the leaked fixes feel like that too tbh.

oh and btw on the AC's, you can get that if you use one of the two falloff bonused battleships that currently exist, but on non-falloff bonused ships that's already inside the 2x falloff area, so below 50% damage.

Truth is none of the four tier3 BCs are balanced in the current metagame and while the numbers are fun in an EFT wet drem kind of way, it would be a mistake to let them reach Tranquility with anything resembling their current state.

This is a hilarious statement because if there is one thing these tier 3 BCs are going to counter, it's going to be the ubiquitous Drake and Hurricane fits that have been FOTM since just after Dominion. If they go live with stats as-is, CCP will have pulled off a magnificent troll on the entire community.

Every roaming gang we take out will have a Talos. Every gatecamp. Every time we leave the home system to PVP and we're not rolling frigates or cloakies. Shield or Armor tanked.

Why?

Because 90% webs are deadly to jump into. When we put a serious fleet together there are specific ships needed. Dictors/Scout/Tackle Frig/3+ Logis/command ships... When all is said and done it isn't always workable to ask someone to spend 100 mil on a daredevil so **** can't get back to the gate. The people who can fly them may be doing other vital tasks. Now all we have to do is grab some idiot noob out of our blob of idiot noobs with some pocket change and BC 3 + Gallente Cruiser 3 and we're set.

Anybody feel like flying down to Catch USTZ?

Course for a serious camp nothing can beat multiple daredevils each being boosted by two remote sebos, a couple light dictors with delayed bubble, a loki/claymore, and some mid sized sebod arty boats. Dramiel won't make it back through that.

Two questions:
1) Where did 87% come from? The closest thing I could think of is using an X5 web (with reduced strength) which doesn't make a whole lot of sense on a web strength-bonused hull.

2) Even if it was 87%, a single 87% web is more effective than 2x 60% webs. But realistically, people will put a 90% web on the Talos and in that case you need four 60% webs to (roughly) match it. And like Amarr laid out earlier, the Talos can simply fit two webs.

1. No idea what "FYA" means.
2. Because they want to make people move really slow? I dunno, I think it's the point of double webs in general, someone correct me if I'm wrong.

And what do you think two 90% webs will do to a ship?

according to eft: a ship going 101m/s with one 90% web will go 10m/s and with two will go 2m/s.

The same 101m/s ship with a 60% web goes 41m/s, with two webs goes 21m/s with 3 goes 14m/s and with 4 goes 12.

So a talos with two 90% webs will slow a target by approx 98% (99% with 3) thats quite significantly better than an umlimited amount of normal strenght webs due to stacking.

Since its not faction or t2, thats why above i said it should be a half bonus of 5% for a 75% web and even thats a bit generous since the other teir 3 BC only get weapon bonuses.

Thank you for explaining, I'm getting tired of unreasonable whines.

+1 for you my friend.