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Introducing: EVE Maps
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Netheus Soubar
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#1 - 2013-03-29 10:59:26 UTC
Hello everyone,

in the past weeks I have been working on a web-based tool for New Eden capsuleers. I want you to have a look at it, test it, and provide me honest (but polite) feedback, suggestions, or any other issues you may find.

It's an Google Maps-like attempt to map New Eden. It is in a presentable state, but as with practically any software, it's not complete. I gladly want to expand the mapping tool with features, but for that I want to know what you guys want to see in it.

So. Here's me, doing an introduction of the tool.
Introducing: EVE Maps

And here's the tool itself:
EVE Maps v1.0.1

Looking forward to your feedback.
PyroTech03
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#2 - 2013-03-30 09:01:54 UTC
It's very slow to load.....i mean.....slow. :L

How do you see this tool being used? Or is this just a "because I can do it" type app at which point it doesn't really matter?
Tonto Auri
Vhero' Multipurpose Corp
#3 - 2013-03-30 09:39:47 UTC
dotlan maps way faster. And much more useful.

Two most common elements in the universe are hydrogen and stupidity. -- Harlan Ellison
NickyYo
modro
The Initiative.
#4 - 2013-03-30 11:13:37 UTC  |  Edited by: NickyYo
Good idea, but the site is too slow!

It is too slow for the following reasons.


  • The map is over 600kb big on each load and seems to get larger on each zoom in..
  • The page is built around static screenshots by the looks of it, and each zoom refreshes the page.
  • You need to get some sort of caching going on.
  • This site would kill someones data allowance on their phone or Ipad.
  • Good luck!


Suggestion:

I suggest that you load everything at the first load, provide the user with a loading bar if nessary. Then use Jquery to zoom in parts of the maps and display data etc.

When looking at maps for eve the user is not bothered about how the map is styled, they just want to get hold of information quicky and simply.

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Netheus Soubar
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#5 - 2013-03-30 19:06:54 UTC
NickyYo wrote:
Good idea, but the site is too slow!

It is too slow for the following reasons.


  • The map is over 600kb big on each load and seems to get larger on each zoom in..
  • The page is built around static screenshots by the looks of it, and each zoom refreshes the page.
  • You need to get some sort of caching going on.
  • This site would kill someones data allowance on their phone or Ipad.
  • Good luck!


Suggestion:

I suggest that you load everything at the first load, provide the user with a loading bar if nessary. Then use Jquery to zoom in parts of the maps and display data etc.

When looking at maps for eve the user is not bothered about how the map is styled, they just want to get hold of information quicky and simply.



Hi NickyYo,

thanks for the feedback. You're right, it gets relatively big on the larger zoom stages. It is, however, not designed for mobile use (in the moment).

I will see if I can implement some kind of caching solution. I have tried to implement a mechanism in which lines are drawn dynamically, but this proved to be very slow. Maybe I'm just doin it rong.

I'll keep working on it though.
Cyerus
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2013-03-30 19:34:10 UTC
I've just checked your new tool, and came to the same conclusion as the others;


  • Very very very slow.
  • Google Maps approach is bad, as the EVE systems have a different 'height', making them hard to track in 2D.
  • Users want to see all the important stuff easy and fast. No need to load the whole map in a browser application when you want to check out statistics and whatnot about a system.


Dotlan's still my choice.