Warfare & Tactics

Seems a lot of these locusts are posting here^^
Especially from a slave militia where 85% of the members don´t know how to fight without blob, ogb, falcons and 2b pods. Well Blobtechncally the amarr were better now :P

I simply want he following: I want that pvp for a faction makes sense. POINT. Actually it doesn´t make sense. Of course I have fun but sys occupancy is a joke with that. I remember when once a horde of stabbed gals jumped into lamaa. A whole fleet. Some 8 gals maybe. Everyone only running away and plexing like hell. Stabbed comets, slicers, vexors. Stabbed vexors running away from my little hookbill^^. We wanted to defend that system at that time. But we couldn´t. We simply hadn´t the nerves and numbers to place a pvper 24/7 in every plex to prevent the system form being farmed to hell.
That is simply crazy.
If I want sys occupancy--------->Grabbing a stabbed 4mil ship makes more sense than pvping with a 400mil cynabal!!!
Ridigulous.

I left amarr militia when it was at a status where the first time I saw that they really were able to kick the minnies in the c...jones. Even Annah Blobberan whelped fleets like hell.
But still T1. Because of the farmer armada.
Yeah they get fights but you can get these fights also as a pirate. No difference.

Edit: Amarr had that farmer armada some weeks ago, too. It was idiotic. Whole pvp militia was preparing for taking systems and then 2 days later the farmer horde took it down before the pvpers even had their stuff in the staging systems.
Yeah I was also very dissappointed when the farmer armada sat in amarr. First time I wanted to kill myself reading militia channel because reading it, it seemed like I am in the farmer empire.

At that moment I was in an amarr mili alliance with almost 400 members and active 24/7.
And sorry but it is no fun "guarding" a plex 24/7. Especially amarr are very pvp orientated. So tell a bigger corp to plex some days and you will get mutiny.
I remember when Greygal from agony said she (Maud on TS: "**** Gregal is a chick!") didn´t want Kourm any more because all this def plexing was simply no fun.

And there we have the problem: FW is actually a plex in a stabbed ship tournament instead of shoot your enemy tournament. All this pvp around is maybe important for 5% of the systems.

He's gone rabid! Everyone back up slowly.

still think the docking thing is stupid, adds needless logistical and chronological complications to a feature that already takes best part of a week to make a system vulnerable - thats if the enemy doesnt push it back ofc!

About the farmers? Thats purely the isk earning potentials fault and how completely broken the ratio of isk vs. time invested in the character.

Also the lack of need to actually fight anything other than the NPC in the plex to get your reward. Farmers farm available systems, they do not take systems to farm them or pvp/deplex to keep them -> huge issue.

Add difficulty to take systems time wise and logisticly - to farmers with little to no interest in keeping or flipping vulnerable systems and you have FW players who RP (not actual RP), people that want to take systems for glory and honor of their race etc and you have people on the same side working against each other more than together. If that isk runs too low, the farmer switches to another alt or changes militia. No wonder players like colt are raging :)

also: in before "told you so, before inferno."

No because then people would just blow up their alts for profit.

Change the stealth bomber back to cruise missiles.

Personally, I don't think there's much hate towards the farmers themselves - they've identified a clearly broken system and are exploiting it hard and fast before CCP looks at faction war again (maybe in 2016), as they rightfully should.

Now, if only plex mechanics didn't strongly incentivize sitting 29km from the button with a cloak and stabs.

AMEN. The null bear influence on this game is overwheleming when you look at how much they really have their grubby fingers into.

Except you can't run missions in proper pvp fits, so this is a non-runner. The genius of FW plexes is that you're farming and waiting for pvp action at the same time.

yea smthing should be done in FW as long as the current mechanism support to much the wining site. however its hard to find a way where farmers and farming macroes wouldnt win. And u cant leave only pvp parts bcs one side can avoid it and then what?

How to force people to fight - it is a good question.