Missions & Complexes

My current hurricane has perma 300 tank and 660 dps. I got the same level of tank out of the gno with a similar setup but not perma. This was due to the need of filling lows with turret/drone upgrades to make up 600 dps. Both ships come out at around same speed but the gno relys a lot more on drones, medium drones at that. Would perhaps call the need for using web mid slot, further reducing cap time.

As far as i can see so far the single thing the gno beats my cane in is the scan bonus. I typically lock a 4/10 in 3 scans. Does locking it 5 seconds sooner- justify the tank/spank hit?.

I'm Interested in other fittings to make it worth using for a reason other than it being new.


Perhaps i'm missing the point of this ship. Maybe it's real design is to give ''newb'' players with low SP free hull bonused dmg?. And ofc, free scan strength.



I'm also curious what role this ship is suppose to be fitting other than possible ''free bonuses for low sp players''. Rad/mag in high sec is mostly pointless. Mag/rad in low sec is easily done with a cruiser that won't pull the attention of being a faction bc, kinde rule out 5/10's for the same faction flashy reason. My cane and I'm sure the likes of brutix and ishtar/t3's will all run high/low 4/10's better/same than this ship at what will be a fraction of the value.

As for WH proffesion sites, you'd need to armor tank to keep the mid slots and using medium drones may be asking for trouble. The dps would be something like 300?.

Anoms are very dangerous as you can be warped to from nothing but D-scan. I'd not be taking a facition ship to do those when the cane/drake can do it better.


Maybe things are changing so much in exploration that you NEED scan bonuses to scan down sites. I dunno. Right now i just cant find a numeric reason to use it over my cane.


P.S. The model of the ship is insane, I like it a lot. Probably worth flying if only for that.

I also call dibs on being first to notice it's model is from a shotgun ;p.

3% dmg Implants and medium C-type booster.

A person said the gno might be given out as a 1 time gift to players in summer patch. I personaly think it's going to be a bpc from mags but who knows. Either way it's value will be large, sooner or later.

For what prupose is a all in 1 exploration bc?. They are limited to 4/10 in high sec, mag rads are simply not worth the time. In low sec 4/10s are rare and as i already said mag rads are easily done by cheap cruisers. It's not logical to jump a t1 bc into low sec mag/rads never mind a faction one.

Would the gno be able to do 5/10? I can't answer that. But well, if the gno can then so would my cane.

Maybe it's for proffesion site WH?. My cane will fit the same armor tank as a gno and i don't need 6 mid slots to fit hacking/archy mods. I also don't put 1/3 of my dps into drones.

I'm realy not trying to be an ass, im hoping you can give me a valid use for it (if we ever get the ship).

I use just the cane. Even if me vs a T3 both started scanning at exactly the same time (very unlikely in reality) He won't be in the site that much longer than me.. assuming he's actualy looking for nothing but 4/10 anyway.

Can he blitz 4/10 in 20 seconds tops? Dont think so. I don't steal from people but if we both go into the site very close to each other i'd go for that as fair game.

That's never hapened yet. Always, the site is nion done, and i leave them to it. Vice verser (part from the occasional dickhead).

Yes, the scanning bonus is huge... or much rather the fact that you don't need to rig for scan stregth so you can focus on more relevant things in an all-in-one ship.

I'd say flying a BC into lowsec isn't that much of an uncommon thing to do, at least I see a lot of Drakes and Myrmidons in the areas I frequent. MWD and cloak are a huge thing and vigilant gameplay is the other. There are situations where you will loose the ship no matter how good you are but these are rare.

Since you asked in the Exploration channel today, you may be a bit too negative here yes. Sure, a BC - especially a faction one - will always be a prime target, but you shouldn't really start running in an expensive ship to begin with right away.That's what scouting an area and running mags/radars for a while until you have a feeling for the locals are for.

It's all about efficiency in my opinion and usually the more you invest (T3 i.e.) the higher the returrns.

In the end, I doubt we'll see the Gnosis before the expansion anyway and at this point we'll see what we have to work with. Then we can decide wheter or not the Gnosis or one of the new faction BCs will be a viable alternative outside of highsec.

If not, we do get a unique ship for running in safety, that counts as well

Also, we explorers - unless you're doing it wrong (tm) - make a lot of isk anyways and quite honestly nothing beats the thrill of flying a shiny in potentially hostile space. Loosing an expensive ship isn't that much of a deal if you're having fun or if people manage to set up a creative and well executed trap.

if its gonna be a special edition its gonna be useless...because u will be hunted down everywhere by suicide gankers who are looking for juicy kill mails.Just undocking that baby in jita will get u killed.
And not even parctical u can run most mag/radar sites in a t1 frig in high sec......except that guristas shattered life support witch has bs rats in it.
You can run all combat sites in a t2 fitted caracal,vexor,arbitrator,rupture,thorax,moa,omen,maller etc with a t2 fit and decent skills.... or any bcs for the 4/10 if u have problems(not likely).
Now for low sec i run a vexor for low sec exploration....handles mag/radars with no problem what so ever so no need for a t1 bc not to mention a faction bc like the gno.
Combat sites in low sec can be run by t2 fitted bc just fine..... with a little patience and eyes on dscan so again i see no point in using a faction ship that will most likely cost as much a faction fitted tech 3 cruiser.

Probably best place to use this faction bc in in null sov.....deep enough that u don't see any hostiles for months at a time.

If its gonna be a special edition ship..... u`ll not see them in space just like the other special edition ships.Better off to add the bpc as drops to the new exploration content coming in the summer.

And as for the fear of faction bc blobs...whats so different from tech 3 blobs? even with the bonuses the gnosis won`t out dps a pvp fitted t3, not to mention is gonna be slower , less agile and have bigger sig radius witch will make them more vulnerable to bigger weapons systems and besides if u get a 120 man fleet of those ships as stated in previews post ur just asking to get hotdroped by big alliances.

Gno seems to rely alot of it's tank and resistence on active mods, unlike the T3. It is also a BC sized hull that will take full dmg from most ships. Around 4-5 cheaply fit T1 cruisers with a neut each will give a bad day to the gno piolit. About 200mil for those 5 cruisers and in they willl be destroying 1bil+.

The gno is the new exploration mechanic ;p.. you never know where you'll find one!.. you never know what dmg to deal!. Drops faction ammo.. has a chance to drop medium sized faction mods.

Not sure i'm with you on that. The spread resistence is not a good thing imo. The natural resistence of shield tanking for cal/matar space will favour normal hulls imo. And those areas of space are most desired by explorers becuase of the loot.