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Request: Moar Large Plexes in FW
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Yogsoloth
Call of Cuthulu
#21 - 2013-03-09 17:19:57 UTC
This would be easy to implement and is clearly favored by the majority of FW pilots.

Make it happen !

While we're at it, FW beacons should have an anti-cloaking effect.
Typo Interobang
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#22 - 2013-03-10 20:15:47 UTC
A few more Large Complexes would be welcome. I am starting to have too much ISK and need to lose a few BCs.
Xolve
State War Academy
Caldari State
#23 - 2013-03-10 20:52:31 UTC
Getsafe Aisak wrote:
I agree. My personal army of unfit/stabbed frigate alts needs more of the better paying plexes to farm.


Even though your comment is primarily poorly placed sarcasm, the effective date on the relevancy of said comment expired about four months ago.
Getsafe Aisak
Doomheim
#24 - 2013-03-10 21:52:42 UTC
Xolve wrote:
Getsafe Aisak wrote:
I agree. My personal army of unfit/stabbed frigate alts needs more of the better paying plexes to farm.


Even though your comment is primarily poorly placed sarcasm, the effective date on the relevancy of said comment expired about four months ago.


Then what are all the said unfit/stabbed frigates doing in the plexes throughout all the FW space? I can assure you that my observations are current.
Garr Earthbender
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#25 - 2013-03-10 22:02:59 UTC
They're mostly defensive plexing. Not really an LP maker, but helps with warzone control.

-Scissors is overpowered, rock is fine. -Paper
Zarnak Wulf
Task Force 641
Empyrean Edict
#26 - 2013-03-10 23:00:21 UTC
Most farmers I see are in minors and smalls. They are done in less time - less chance to be chased out. They are also easier to run in stabbed ships with the DPS of a wet noodle.

If more plexes of the large variety were added and a reshuffle was done with either VP or respawn timers- the effect of said farmers might be diluted a bit.
Trinkets friend
Sudden Buggery
Sending Thots And Players
#27 - 2013-03-10 23:54:40 UTC
+1, we all need more opportunities to lose larger ships to nanofag damp Condors, Adolf and ISBOXing pros who'll take 6 x 1.5M ISK Catalysts in against your 100M ISK Cyclone and vape it with 2400 DPS before you can even cycle your XLASB.

Come on, people. You won't be using your BC's much more than you do now. People will just figure out "ohmygoshzor I can farm the larges with a cloaky osprey instead of a Bantam". Then they'll figure out, Prophecy = big active armour bait, everything else is just fodder for Cynabals and/or Condors, and you'll go back to welping frigs and dessies after 2 weeks.

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Zarnak Wulf
Task Force 641
Empyrean Edict
#28 - 2013-03-11 00:42:38 UTC
I used to kill condors all the time in a Naga. But that is besides the point. With large plexes there would be large brawls possible. Which is what we want.
Garr Earthbender
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#29 - 2013-03-11 00:44:13 UTC
Make sure to like the original post if you agree with this!!!! Let the devs know how we feel!

-Scissors is overpowered, rock is fine. -Paper
SkiD-MaRk
Wambulance
#30 - 2013-03-11 04:11:53 UTC
Coming back to Eve with a new char. about 3 months total training time on her. I love the small scale frig fights FW offers compared to living with my old char in 0.0 for so many years. But I can certainly see the limits FW can have with so few large plexs and the lack of true slug fests that could happen in them.

But at this point I am really enjoying relearning the game through FW, with or without large plex's, so my opinion is more neutral, then most that have been fighting the good fight much longer then I have.
Xolve
State War Academy
Caldari State
#31 - 2013-03-11 21:59:53 UTC
Trinkets friend wrote:
+1, we all need more opportunities to lose larger ships to nanofag damp Condors, Adolf and ISBOXing pros who'll take 6 x 1.5M ISK Catalysts in against your 100M ISK Cyclone and vape it with 2400 DPS before you can even cycle your XLASB.

Come on, people. You won't be using your BC's much more than you do now. People will just figure out "ohmygoshzor I can farm the larges with a cloaky osprey instead of a Bantam". Then they'll figure out, Prophecy = big active armour bait, everything else is just fodder for Cynabals and/or Condors, and you'll go back to welping frigs and dessies after 2 weeks.



But I really, really want to 18 box talos in plexes designed for battle cruisers.
IbanezLaney
The Church of Awesome
#32 - 2013-03-12 08:20:30 UTC
Would also like to see more large plexes.

I wouldn't want them restricted from smaller ships entering as long as the rat is buffed by a fair bit.
If only a BC and up can solo the rat - that would encourage more BC's and maybe even BS's being flown in FW.

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Caleb Seremshur
Bloodhorn
Patchwork Freelancers
#33 - 2013-03-12 11:06:44 UTC
IbanezLaney wrote:
Would also like to see more large plexes.

I wouldn't want them restricted from smaller ships entering as long as the rat is buffed by a fair bit.
If only a BC and up can solo the rat - that would encourage more BC's and maybe even BS's being flown in FW.


I think restricting smaller ships from entering would be a great idea.

Pros:
Increasing investment from people plexing
Creating demand for fleets
Less escape artists ergo more kills
Better for game economy as ships that die mean ISK sink.

Cons:
Restrictive to newer players (do month old alts even belong in FW larges?)
Gank bait
Conceivably hard to balance
Dread drops becoming an issue (outright banned IMO, save the dreads for IHUBs please)

That's just off the top of my head. The question in my head is *if* you introduce a minimum ship size for larges what size do you choose? Cruisers? T2 cruisers?

How do you justify the payout of such delicious things? Do larges retain their current pay-out rate or face diminishing returns over a given fleet size (ie not an equal split between all parties but a given amount decreasing on a metric as the number of ships increases)

That's just my 2c anyway.
Cearain
Plus 10 NV
#34 - 2013-03-12 13:58:48 UTC
Getsafe Aisak wrote:
I agree. My personal army of unfit/stabbed frigate alts needs more of the better paying plexes to farm.



While this is a problem now I don't think adding large plexes will make this worse, or better. I think it will just add some variety.

I think ccp said there was no real reason to have the number of large plexes so limited other than some throwback issue with the code. But even if they don't spawn quite as often as the smaller plexes we probably should get more of these.

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Skarp Severasse
The Untraceable
M A R A K U G A
#35 - 2013-03-15 11:30:53 UTC
I don't even own a battlecruiser and I badly want more large complexes. Factional warfare space would be much more dynamic. But please keep the loyalty point rewards between complex sizes comparable so that flying smaller ones stay just as viable.
Andracin
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#36 - 2013-03-26 09:23:04 UTC
I approve this post and I don't faction warfare...but I sure love hunting the people who do!
Commissar Veldt
Progressive State
#37 - 2013-03-26 11:23:58 UTC
+1 indeed.

More large plexes please CCP!
GavinGoodrich
Perkone
Caldari State
#38 - 2013-03-26 11:45:52 UTC
+1

Haaaaaalp my head's on fire
Flyinghotpocket
Small Focused Memes
Ragequit Cancel Sub
#39 - 2013-04-01 22:58:54 UTC
bring back major plexs!

if you do bring back a bc plex this time, this time don't be asleep at the wheel when you allow t3 cruisers and no t2 command ships. or don't allow both

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Deen Wispa
Sheriff.
United Caldari Space Command.
#40 - 2013-04-01 23:17:00 UTC
Not much of a reason to play FW anymore unless BCs are introduced. Would be nice but not gonna hold my breath considering how slow CCP is with this

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