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FINAL DETAILS OF CALDARI PRIME DMZ ANNOUNCED

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Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#41 - 2013-03-25 12:52:02 UTC
Andreus Ixiris wrote:
Diana Kim wrote:
just show that you have no idea of what I am doing, how i fight and what are you talking about. If you pull a couple of examples, that you somehow managed to find out, but ignore many others, you are indeed blind and ignorant.

I don't need to claim it. People just need to look at your kill record.

Exactly. And exactly what you haven't did. But whatever, im not interesting in sharing my combat experience with you. I am not going to cast pearls before swine.
I am answering to your ravings only to prevent you from misleading readers.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#42 - 2013-03-25 13:23:56 UTC
Xindi Kraid wrote:

I have been paying attention. You suggested that Ishukone were acting improperly because they want to gain access to grant aid diplomatically rather than coming in guns blazing which would result in the death of more Caldari citizens as relief vessels (which aren't known for their armaments and ability to take punishment) get caught up in a fight.

Again, it seems as if you don't care about the people on the ground so much as saving face and getting revenge, neither of which will help those people.

Sir, maybe you have greater experience than me, but I am not sure about quality of it. Thus I didn't give you permission to make judgements instead of me and attribute your thought as mine. You have no slightest idea about what I do care more and what do I care less. So, please, do not show further incompetence if you want to continue constructive discussion, and please state your own thought about problem, but not your imagination, that you assign as my.

Besides, simply studying combat tactics can demonstrate numerous ways of preventing valuable cargo from harm during military operation.

Xindi Kraid wrote:
Quote:

Should you allow murderer, that you catch on a crime scene, go along with it, because you want to show the restrain, that he have not?
I find it absurd, sir.
You have that person arrested, so they can be tried for their crimes and brought to justice. If you skipped straight to killing them right back, then we might as well not have police, because we'd just be a barbaric anarchy.

The Federation needs to answer for their crimes, but, thus far, throwing the Navy at the problem has proven somewhat less than effective.

I am pretty fine with trying them for crimes according to rules of justice.
But how are you gonna do it, while they point a gun in your direction?
In this situation you can either fight them or let them go. But should you let them go, you put your name in disgrace and became an accomplice in their crimes.

Xindi Kraid wrote:

I am not a coward. I have come to the defense of the State on multiple occasions, and I was there at the battle of Shiigeru trying to defend Caldari interests. Trust me, we did what we could to fight back when we were hit, but we got our asses kicked. Right now is the time to heal our wounds.

Taking rash action might only serve to injure us further. We should not take this attack lying down, but there are other ways to demonstrate strength and solidarity. Also you have framed your intentions mostly in the the terms of vengeance which can be a slippery slope. A slope I feel the State has slid down too far under Heth's rule (I appreciate his reforms to bring us back to a better meritocracy, and was fully behind the actions to reclaim Caldari Prime and maintain defense of the State, but his handling of Gallente peoples out of blind hatred are appalling and have only served to provoke the Federation).

Gallentean strike force was specifically assembled to destroy our forces. They had intelligence about our disposition before the attack. Luckily, we made sure that majority of their strike force won't return back. When CONCORD restored order in system, only two of Moros class dreadnoughts were left on field from gallentean squad. We destroyed practically everything of them, with only Nyx class supercarrier cowardly run during the battle. In this conflict both sides lost, since in the end only capsuleers were left on field. I do not know the fate of two moroses after they became unattackable according to CONCORD rules, since I was busy with dispatching FDU scum from the site.

Also I fully support Heth in all his deeds and I can't name a single of his actions, that I would consider as wrong.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Xindi Kraid
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#43 - 2013-03-25 21:50:12 UTC
Good news folks.

The Gallente Sentate has show at least they have some honor and have unanimously granted Ishukone passage into Federation space to provide aid to the planet.
Kellanthia
Sani Sabik Research and Studies
#44 - 2013-03-26 01:16:16 UTC
Now is the time to aid all the afflicted in the battle both in space and upon Caldari Prime itself. It is the time to show our moral courage and do what is right regardless of factional loyalties and help all affected by this conflict that has been sadly in the making for years.

As capsuleers let us use our unique position to help all those that need it so badly at this moment. Let us hope for a true cessation to fighting upon the surface. If your religious then may you pray for the all the souls now lost, and the recovery of the millions of non-combatants and even the combatants of both sides caught up in the conflict. I will offer my aid not only because I am a Caldari citizen and former State Protectorate, but because it is the right thing to do without regard to nationality of citizen of Caldari Prime.
Mammal Tafren
Intaki Liberation Front
Intaki Prosperity Initiative
#45 - 2013-03-26 01:49:08 UTC
The Ishukone Corporation has achieved through Diplomacy what Heth, the calamulav khotey ki aulda failed to secure through belligerence.




Scherezad
Revenent Defence Corperation
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#46 - 2013-03-26 02:37:04 UTC
[The Ballad of Amsten and Etee, (exerpt)]
[Act Three, Scene Two - "The Crush of Dreams and Ice"]


[LAKE TEKOJARVI, early morning, on the shore, amidst a copse of tamarack. ORTESAI AMSTEN and KIRJUUNEN enter, Lord Amsten mounted on his war horse, KEISA.]

LORD AMSTEN looks across the lake, which has the first cracklings of ice across the shore.

LORD AMSTEN: There it lies - O Tekojarvi. Such secrets you hold in your black belly.

KIRJUUN KAKKUN: What, lord? What do you see? There's nothing but mist - the sun has not yet risen.

LORD AMSTEN: I need no sunlight to see through the fog, brave Kakkun. No morning haze can hide this blazing vision.

KIRJUUN KAKKUN: What, lord? Do you see the army of Lord Etee?

LORD AMSTEN: I see them not, though I feel them close, beyond the trees.

KIRJUUN NISI: Do you see the ice, lord, that brings the slumber of earth and calls the end of war?

LORD AMSTEN: I see it not, wise Nisi.

KIRJUUN TANOI: It is the fishermen, lord? That set sail before the dawn casts out her rays?

LORD AMSTEN: No, light-hearted Tanoi. Though dawn may come and touch the rocks and trees, there is only night for us.

KIRJUUN KAKKUN: Tell us, lord, so that we may strike down this foe and bring the dawn.

LORD AMSTEN: Were it so simple. The spirit of Tekojarvi brings an ill wind to us, brave friends. Our path ahead is doomed, and yet our home behind is lost.

LORD AMSTEN: It is our deaths I see, noble warriors and kin of Amstatai. All who tread beyond these trees with me are lost. I would see no shame in any of you who would choose to leave me and find shelter in this foggy bay.

KIRJUUN TANOI: Never, lord!

KIRJUUN NISI: I shall shed my last drop of blood for you, lord!

KIRJUUN KAKKUN: Not even death will keep me from your side, lord!

LORD AMSTEN: Your words warm me, kirjuunen. Let us find rest together, and meet our ancestors as one. The whole lineage of Amstatai shall sleep together under the same sky, tonight, from its beginning to its end.

LORD AMSTEN draws his sword and holds it high. All others follow his lead.

LORD AMSTEN: We find our deaths together, Children of the Amaata! Let them sing of us when the stars themselves die!

KIRJUUNEN: Death! Glory! Together!

LORD AMSTEN: Forward now, to the black dawn!

[ALL EXEUNT]
Gosakumori Noh
Coven of One
#47 - 2013-03-26 05:16:56 UTC
[CALDARI PRIME. Reluctantly, camera drones descend the eviscerated slopes of a barren island set amid broken ice. Beeping and meeping to one another through the desolation, they flutter above snow and exposed rock here and there, searching...

Searching.

Finding, they vibrate excitedly in place - and wait.

Temperate Command Center "LUOSTARI-JO GOGOMO," courtyard. Enormous dogs of ambiguous cybernetic pedigree howl. The pot-bellied Ealurian in crimson-lined cold-weather military gear, the crone all in fluffy black, and her cylindrical kameira crush across freshly fallen ice to a sled of weathered wood and woven rope.

With a wave of hand and a flick of bits, the crone launches the powerful dogs into motion. Barking excitedly at one another, they charge into driving sleet.

Down, down and around, they advance inexorably toward the frozen shore. The towering, gilded sheath of Loustari-Jo Gogomo, though gleaming, fades quickly into grey oblivion. As the sled draws near, the camera drones perk up, zoom about briefly, and chirp. The crone pets each of them in turn.]

Oh, you've found something, my lovelies!

[The cylindrical kameira pulls a heavy, circular metallic shovel-like tube from the sled, and approaches the spot identified by the drones. Carefully, he places the tube against the ice, and with slow determination crushes it down. Upon reaching an appropriate depth, he twists and shifts the metal, then withdraws it.

Returning to the sled, he extrudes a core of frozen muck.

Excitedly fastidious, the Ealurian darts gloved fingers through the sludge, separating decaying vegetation from more precious material. Hands on hips, the crone casts a disapproving glance at drifts of snow. Scooping some up in a palm, she manipulates it with one thumb.]

Oxidized tritanium dust! We won't produce a sufficient quantity of modified bacteria to isolate nearly enough before the partial melt. Redouble extraction of aquatic samples. We'll also want to improve our air filtration. The summer stench is going to be something else. How about the roots?

"Oh, yes, madam," chirps the Ealurian. "Wonderful, wonderful! I look forward to studying their cryogenic properties."

[The crone picks up a bulb.]

There's a lady I know, for whom all that glittered was once gold. Now, she tends her garden in a guarded cage. I wonder if she might have any interest in the roots of frozen Tekojarvi...
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#48 - 2013-03-26 05:46:16 UTC
Xindi Kraid wrote:
Good news folks.

The Gallente Sentate has show at least they have some honor and have unanimously granted Ishukone passage into Federation space to provide aid to the planet.

How can these beings have an honor? Since it is they who are responsible for what has happened on the planet.

Although Ishukone goals seems honorable and sincere, the way they want to reach them is simply disgusting. I myself find it quite easy to break through Federation defenses into their space, and definitely not with peaceful intentions.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Simon Louvaki
Khaldari InnoTektoniks and Analytical Solutions
#49 - 2013-03-26 05:58:41 UTC
You are not a mega-corporation Kim-haani, you are a capsuleer. Your ability to breach Gallente space is not comparable to Ishukone who has a responsibility to their employees to do whats best for them. There is no dishonor in what they are doing nor their methods. Politics is but a more refined and often more dangerous form of warfare.

-- "The weak of mind are quick to judge with slightest tempt; Thus fools go forth to spread false word." - The Scriptures, Book of Trials 2:13 - 2:21

--"At the narrow passage, there is no brother and no friend." - Hyasyoda Proverb

Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#50 - 2013-03-26 06:31:05 UTC
Simon Louvaki wrote:
You are not a mega-corporation Kim-haani, you are a capsuleer. Your ability to breach Gallente space is not comparable to Ishukone who has a responsibility to their employees to do whats best for them. There is no dishonor in what they are doing nor their methods. Politics is but a more refined and often more dangerous form of warfare.

Mega-corporation has greater resources and number of ships, than I will ever see in my life. Their abilities are greatly overcoming mine. They can realise complex plans, strategies and maneuvers, that I will never have possibility to conduct myself.

The problem is, that among numerous ways of achieving the goal, they have choosen the least honorable one.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Xindi Kraid
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#51 - 2013-03-26 06:31:12 UTC
I didn't say they had a lot, and I am not forgetting their previous actions, but at the very least the senate is not sweeping the issue under the rug and is allowing for their victims to be aided. Even if I don't care for them, I have to at least accept the fact that they haven't been complete monsters.

As for Ishukone's actions, I believe Louvaki sums the issue up nicely.
Trying to force their way into the heart of the Federation is a bad idea, and the Navy only attempted it while CONCORD was down and Tripwire had been sabotaged. Beyond that, there are alternatives, and not looking at those alternatives is stupid at best, and criminally negligent at worst.

I implore you to learn the difference between sacrificing lives for the good of the State, and just throwing those lives away, as you seem to keep recommending actions which fall under the latter category.
Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#52 - 2013-03-26 06:50:48 UTC
I am a combat pilot of the State and my duty is to my people.

That duty has never been one thing, unchanging, and always what will bring the most to my people at the current time. There's a time for violence and also a time to get off our asses and help starving and sick civilians. If this temporary detente gives someone a chance to reach a negotiated settlement with the Federation Senate, then I'm glad for it.

I am a combat pilot of the State and my duty is to my people.

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.

Valdezi
Revenent Defence Corperation
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#53 - 2013-03-26 07:48:00 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
honorable


You don't know what this word means.
Akrasjel Lanate
Immemorial Coalescence Administration
Immemorial Coalescence
#54 - 2013-03-26 08:19:41 UTC
Well the Ishukone has been been granted full authorization to cross the border between the Federation and the State in order to access Caldari Prime. I can say that Mens Reppola is seen as a reasonable and a honourable man within the Fed otherwise such thing wouldnt happen after fridays event. It would be interesting if after further negotiations the Ishukone would be the only mega to have access to Caldari Prime.

CEO of Lanate Industries

Citizen of Solitude

Aelisha
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#55 - 2013-03-26 09:38:52 UTC
Whether or not the Megas at large have a hand in assisting the people of Caldari prime is irrelevant in my eyes. That Caldari feet tread the earth and Caldari hands deliver relief to all of the traumatised people of Caldari Prime is enough.

We still have a war on. Ishukone does our nation a service by taking this upon themselves, but we of other allegiances have our own parts to play. Caldari Prime is the most important world to our people, but it is only one world - let's not lose sight of the greater conflict over this tragedy, especially when it appears to be in good hands.

CEO of the Achura-Waschi Exchange

Intaki Reborn

Independent Capsuleer

Mekhana
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#56 - 2013-03-26 09:49:42 UTC
A wise decision from the Senate. Glad they decided to break their silence with good news in hand.

Vide longe er eros di Luminaire VII, uni canse pra krage e determiniex! Sange por Sange! Descanse bravex eros, mie freires. Mortir por vostre Liberete, farmilie, ide e amis. lons Proviste sen mort! Luminaire liber mas! 

Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#57 - 2013-03-26 09:52:50 UTC
Valdezi wrote:
Diana Kim wrote:
honorable


You don't know what this word means.

Sir (althought I am not shure I should adress you like that), you have no ground to tell me what i know and what I don't. Not you taught me and not you graduated me.

The action your corporation (and you as being part of it during these time) did do not allow you to make judgement about anyone else's honor. You have lost your own, when you was attacking our fleets, who were defending the State and when you was making an alliance with gallentean military forces.

The only honorable action was to leave the corporation that instant, what you hadn't done, disgracing yourself.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Malcolm Khross
Doomheim
#58 - 2013-03-26 10:58:50 UTC
I commend the wisdom and honor with which Chief Executor Mens Reppola continues to conduct himself and Ishukone Corporation. I commend Ishukone corporation for its willingness to take bold steps to achieve a goal far more important than intra-corporate warfare - that of assisting people in need, be they Gallente or Caldari. I commend the Federation Senate for seeing past the hostilities between our nations to permit this action and keeping the needs of the people on Caldari Prime above the animosity between our nations.

On behalf of Wiyrkomi Tactical Response Directive, may this operation find favor and success.

~Malcolm Khross

Valdezi
Revenent Defence Corperation
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#59 - 2013-03-26 10:59:14 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:


Sir (althought I am not shure I should adress you like that), you have no ground to tell me what i know and what I don't. Not you taught me and not you graduated me.

The action your corporation (and you as being part of it during these time) did do not allow you to make judgement about anyone else's honor. You have lost your own, when you was attacking our fleets, who were defending the State and when you was making an alliance with gallentean military forces.

The only honorable action was to leave the corporation that instant, what you hadn't done, disgracing yourself.


I thank you for making my point.
Simon Louvaki
Khaldari InnoTektoniks and Analytical Solutions
#60 - 2013-03-26 17:23:18 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:

Mega-corporation has greater resources and number of ships, than I will ever see in my life. Their abilities are greatly overcoming mine. They can realise complex plans, strategies and maneuvers, that I will never have possibility to conduct myself.

The problem is, that among numerous ways of achieving the goal, they have choosen the least honorable one.


I believe you misunderstand. Ishukone certainly has more resources and ships than you ever will, but they also have a responsibility to do whats best in the interest of their people. That does not include rash and foolish actions. I can only reiterate that there is absolutely nothing dishonorable about being smart.

-- "The weak of mind are quick to judge with slightest tempt; Thus fools go forth to spread false word." - The Scriptures, Book of Trials 2:13 - 2:21

--"At the narrow passage, there is no brother and no friend." - Hyasyoda Proverb