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Skill specialization gives 2% per level
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mentalkiller
Celestial Eyes
#1 - 2013-03-26 03:37:54 UTC
Yet they are 10000000000x

Why spend weeks to get an extra little 2%?

Evil

/mentalKiller
Jack Miton
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#2 - 2013-03-26 03:40:14 UTC
Because I'm better than you. I have the level V specializations to prove it.

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Alternate Poster
Zerious Fricken Biziness
#3 - 2013-03-26 03:42:59 UTC
mentalkiller wrote:
Yet they are 10000000000x

Why spend weeks to get an extra little 2%?

Evil


When you lose your ship vs someone with 2% hull left you'll understand why.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#4 - 2013-03-26 03:43:47 UTC
mentalkiller wrote:
Yet they are 10000000000x

Why spend weeks to get an extra little 2%?

Evil
Because it might be the margin that tips the scale in your favour.
If you don't think it will, don't train it — that's kind of the point of having diminishing returns.
mentalkiller
Celestial Eyes
#5 - 2013-03-26 03:43:50 UTC
Jack Miton wrote:
Because I'm better than you. I have the level V specializations to prove it.


Really?

http://eveboard.com/pilot/mentalkiller
212121

Give me a break

/mentalKiller
mentalkiller
Celestial Eyes
#6 - 2013-03-26 03:45:01 UTC
Alternate Poster wrote:
mentalkiller wrote:
Yet they are 10000000000x

Why spend weeks to get an extra little 2%?

Evil


When you lose your ship vs someone with 2% hull left you'll understand why.


Wait, most of the time I either get ganked or gank somebody.
Do you really find those scenarios?

/mentalKiller
Cannibal Kane
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#7 - 2013-03-26 05:31:39 UTC
mentalkiller wrote:
Alternate Poster wrote:
mentalkiller wrote:
Yet they are 10000000000x

Why spend weeks to get an extra little 2%?

Evil


When you lose your ship vs someone with 2% hull left you'll understand why.


Wait, most of the time I either get ganked or gank somebody.
Do you really find those scenarios?


Yes... when you leave the safety of your blob and engage people on your own you get that a lot.

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CENTUREAN
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2013-03-26 05:59:57 UTC
You can save a lot of time by training thermal dynamics to 5.....in regards to soloing. 99.9999999% of my pvp has been with 400+ people with me.


Arronicus
State War Academy
Caldari State
#9 - 2013-03-26 06:57:06 UTC
The point of specialization within eve, is to initially be general, with quick training times yielding high rewards, then increasingly longer and more intense training times, or costs, giving smaller and smaller kickbacks. This allows older players to effectively be better, but not significantly so. However, this 8 or 10% on top of having the initial skill to 5 can often add up to a very significant advantage. I share the mindset of many others, that it is good the way it is. Doesn't need a change. If you don't think that the increased bonus justifies the long train, don't do the long train. Simple as that.

Also, THERMODYNAMICS, not thermal dynamics. 2 VERY different things.
Kirjava
Lothian Enterprises
#10 - 2013-03-26 07:02:07 UTC
Because with over 100M SP, what the hell am I supposed to train?

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Seetesh
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#11 - 2013-03-26 07:12:04 UTC
Kirjava wrote:
Because with over 100M SP, what the hell am I supposed to train?



I have the same problem so I've simply trained all the specs to 5. It does help on solo engagements.
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#12 - 2013-03-26 07:17:23 UTC
"Diminishing returns"

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Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#13 - 2013-03-26 07:24:12 UTC
mentalkiller wrote:
Jack Miton wrote:
Because I'm better than you. I have the level V specializations to prove it.


Really?

http://eveboard.com/pilot/mentalkiller
212121

Give me a break


Well then shouldn't you be telling us why you trained them rather than asking?

Orr did you just buy the character hoping for pwn?

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Graygor
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2013-03-26 07:49:07 UTC
Kirjava wrote:
Because with over 100M SP, what the hell am I supposed to train?


Do like I'm doing atm. Train entire skill blocks to level V. Ships is going to take a long time. But corp / trade / PI / leadership and Navigation arent too bad. Oh and the sub systems.

Bumping this thread to fight the spam.

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Kirjava
Lothian Enterprises
#15 - 2013-03-26 07:52:03 UTC
Graygor wrote:
Kirjava wrote:
Because with over 100M SP, what the hell am I supposed to train?


Do like I'm doing atm. Train entire skill blocks to level V. Ships is going to take a long time. But corp / trade / PI / leadership and Navigation arent too bad. Oh and the sub systems.

Bumping this thread to fight the spam.

This forum shall not belong to trolls or the ISD! P


Aye, I did this too. Only getting around to Capital ships now though, haven't had a need for them. Finished all gunnery and missile skills to 5, just a few cruiser and frig skills then work my way through spaceship command. Still got nearly all of my learning skill refund left too Ugh

Also, row row, fight the spamma!

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Graygor
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2013-03-26 07:55:11 UTC
I have only 852k SP in missiles.

Thats my "rainy day" tree. I've actually finished most of the trees listed. Advanced planetology V is done in 5 days then its onto the science tree.

I must train everything!

Probably never going to train the caps. No interest in capital warfare but I might at some point to just have the spaceship command wing maxed out.

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LittleTerror
Stygian Systems
#17 - 2013-03-26 10:52:43 UTC
Alternate Poster wrote:
mentalkiller wrote:
Yet they are 10000000000x

Why spend weeks to get an extra little 2%?

Evil


When you lose your ship vs someone with 2% hull left you'll understand why.


*nods* Goes off to train all his spec skills to lvl 5.
LittleTerror
Stygian Systems
#18 - 2013-03-26 10:57:33 UTC
Oh and if it was any higher than 2%. Lets say 5%, then everyone would train it, and everyone would do the same damage, and the game would become a lot more predictable and eve would be a very dull eve indeed...

So its simple, it is only 2%, and the skill takes longer to train because it simulates a more diverse virtual world.
Jint Hikaru
OffWorld Exploration Inc
#19 - 2013-03-26 11:08:57 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
mentalkiller wrote:
Jack Miton wrote:
Because I'm better than you. I have the level V specializations to prove it.


Really?

http://eveboard.com/pilot/mentalkiller
212121

Give me a break


Well then shouldn't you be telling us why you trained them rather than asking?

Orr did you just buy the character hoping for pwn?



Being offered for sale here....

CCP really needs to add 'Character Sold' in your employment history.

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Zerious Fricken Biziness
#20 - 2013-03-26 11:38:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Alternate Poster
mentalkiller wrote:
Alternate Poster wrote:
mentalkiller wrote:
Yet they are 10000000000x

Why spend weeks to get an extra little 2%?

Evil


When you lose your ship vs someone with 2% hull left you'll understand why.


Wait, most of the time I either get ganked or gank somebody.
Do you really find those scenarios?


I really have. Less than a month ago even. In that case I won with 5% hull left, had been spamming warp (for the pod) for a few seconds at the time.
Given that 5% hull is less than 2% of my EHP I think maybe the extra damage saved me.
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