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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#41 - 2013-03-20 15:51:35 UTC
Stan'din wrote:
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Buhhdust Princess wrote:
Admittedly, I really hope that one day CCP manage to fit real-life planetary movement and orbits in to game, could you imagine a game that is so real that the planet you made a safespot on then moved slightly 30 days later? Would be good, but irritating i guess ^^
-Buhhd



The moons would move too. Then how do you find your POS ? Bad idea is bad idea.







.... If your POS is orbiting the moon why would your POS not move with the moon ? come on people use those braincells Cool



That's not how it works with POSes. My logic is sound.

POSes are located at least 100k in a random direction from a Moon's Warp-to-Zero. I ain't crawling 100K+ everytime I warp to the moon in order to get to my POS. Neither will anyone else put up with that. Obviously a POS bookmark will not work under these conditions as established already..

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Stan'din
Pandemic Alpha
#42 - 2013-03-20 16:23:43 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Stan'din wrote:
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Buhhdust Princess wrote:
Admittedly, I really hope that one day CCP manage to fit real-life planetary movement and orbits in to game, could you imagine a game that is so real that the planet you made a safespot on then moved slightly 30 days later? Would be good, but irritating i guess ^^
-Buhhd



The moons would move too. Then how do you find your POS ? Bad idea is bad idea.







.... If your POS is orbiting the moon why would your POS not move with the moon ? come on people use those braincells Cool



That's not how it works with POSes. My logic is sound.

POSes are located at least 100k in a random direction from a Moon's Warp-to-Zero. I ain't crawling 100K+ everytime I warp to the moon in order to get to my POS. Neither will anyone else put up with that. Obviously a POS bookmark will not work under these conditions as established already..



a POS would orbit the moon ....


Anyway back to the Topic at hand. P Give me some ice caps at the poles of temperate and water planets

Your about as much use as a condom dispenser in the Vatican.
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#43 - 2013-03-20 16:26:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Ranger 1
Lets give the Pole Dancers some respect, there has been serious talk of making it an official Olympic Event. Smile

One can only hope.

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FeralShadow
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#44 - 2013-03-20 16:56:58 UTC
I remember seeing a post where someone was discussing "Moving Grids" that moved with the celestials, as they themselves moved. Your bookmarks would still be at X, Y, Z, on this particular grid, but the grid would move.

Relativistic bookmarks would be cool too. They could have some fixed "origin" and they could simply do two angles - one for horizontal change, one for vertical change, then distance. That'd essentially be X, Y, Z as well but perhaps easier to deal with.

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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#45 - 2013-03-20 17:49:35 UTC
Stan'din wrote:

a POS would orbit the moon ....






But the Bookmark would not be any good. if that is going on.

Obviously you have not owned or used a POS.

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Stan'din
Pandemic Alpha
#46 - 2013-03-20 17:57:28 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Stan'din wrote:

a POS would orbit the moon ....






But the Bookmark would not be any good. if that is going on.

Obviously you have not owned or used a POS.




Sigh* ... If the planets orbited the sun and the moons orbited the planets a pos would have to either be in a Geosynchronous, sun Synchronous or in a Polar orbit. this is what was brought up before. So there fore a book mark would have to be updated with the position of the POS.

We are talking in hypothetical terms, would be great if you could follow.


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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#47 - 2013-03-20 18:32:35 UTC
... and thus the concept mentioned above (moving grids) comes into play. A concept actively being kicked around at CCP but with no firm plans made for development.

With moving grids a specific set of grid coordinates would move with a celestial body (planet, moon, gate, station) and locations on that specific grid would remain constant as far as your bookmark is concerned... while in reality (lol) the celestial body that the grid is centered on could be in constant motion (orbit).

The end result is that your POS could indeed be located above any celestial body, and that celestial body could be in an orbit, without screwing up your bookmark.

This is being discussed because of proposals to expand POS's, as well as make them anchorable in a wider variety of locations, and even in groups forming POS cities if you will. This could also apply to Outposts or stations.

If it does happen it will likely be a looong way down the road.

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silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
#48 - 2013-03-20 18:57:48 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Give it a few years and we wont have any eitherBlink

They'll still be there. They'll just be temporate zones, good for vacationing.

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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#49 - 2013-03-20 20:58:20 UTC
silens vesica wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
Give it a few years and we wont have any eitherBlink

They'll still be there. They'll just be temporate zones, good for vacationing.



I love the part of Neal Stephenson's "Anathem" when they are driving though the Northern Regions past 'the old cities' that people had established when the Median and Equatorial parts of their planet got too warm. Now the cities are abandoned and buried in snow, and gigantic blocks-wide mobile excavation factories slowly grind them up to extract metals like copper wiring and steel.

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Nexus Day
Lustrevik Trade and Travel Bureau
#50 - 2013-03-20 23:37:08 UTC
You people and your round planets.
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#51 - 2013-03-20 23:44:39 UTC
Ranger 1 wrote:
... and thus the concept mentioned above (moving grids) comes into play. A concept actively being kicked around at CCP but with no firm plans made for development.

With moving grids a specific set of grid coordinates would move with a celestial body (planet, moon, gate, station) and locations on that specific grid would remain constant as far as your bookmark is concerned... while in reality (lol) the celestial body that the grid is centered on could be in constant motion (orbit).

The end result is that your POS could indeed be located above any celestial body, and that celestial body could be in an orbit, without screwing up your bookmark.

This is being discussed because of proposals to expand POS's, as well as make them anchorable in a wider variety of locations, and even in groups forming POS cities if you will. This could also apply to Outposts or stations.

If it does happen it will likely be a looong way down the road.



Just thinking about the code gives me a headache.

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Markku Laaksonen
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#52 - 2013-03-21 13:30:52 UTC
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2442561#post2442561

Thread with a post from CCP FoxFour about CCP Nullarbor and his ideas for moving grids. Nothing much, just that CCP has thought/is thinking about it.

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Felicity Love
Doomheim
#53 - 2013-03-21 13:47:50 UTC
... came expecting a clever reference to lack of natural habitat for pole dancers.... left feeling cheated out of yet another carnal delight. Evil

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James Stag
Doomheim
#54 - 2013-03-21 16:50:17 UTC
Your Moon, My Pole. Can you imagine, My Goal ?
The night is young, our spirits high.
Your moon, My pole. Were Eye to eye.
So common baby and take a chance, life is short dont shun my advance.
At first glance i may look ugly but open up and you will see.
That Your moon and my pole were meant to be.

(Yes i know im terrible at this)

Stan'din
Pandemic Alpha
#55 - 2013-03-21 16:52:01 UTC
James Stag wrote:
Your Moon, My Pole. Can you imagine, My Goal ?
The night is young, our spirits high.
Your moon, My pole. Were Eye to eye.
So common baby and take a chance, life is short dont shun my advance.
At first glance i may look ugly but open up and you will see.
That Your moon and my pole were meant to be.

(Yes i know im terrible at this)





You had me at " Your"

Your about as much use as a condom dispenser in the Vatican.
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