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Do all serious players have alts?

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Sundiata Arran
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2013-03-18 22:03:42 UTC
I'm just wondering. From reading the forums people are constantly talking about their alts. Are there any regular experienced users of this index who play it "straight?" I'm attracted to the roleplaying side of RPG. It feels very gamey to me to have an alternate character around who's sole purpose is to spring traps at gatecamps or slave away for isk, while the main character buys ships and stuff.

I guess another question is: Is it possible to enjoy a PVP/PVE career without the added isk?
NightCrawler 85
Phoibe Enterprises
#2 - 2013-03-18 22:23:51 UTC
I only have this one character, and have never bought a PLEX to gain some fast ISK.
There are definatly people around that only has one character, but its "rare" especially since having an alt can have so many benefits. Cyno alts, super cap pilots, research alts, RVB for fun and so on. Thats mainly for the older players tho. For younger players i guess many want alts because they want to train and be able to do everything "right now".
I will admit i used to have an alt, but the account has been inactive for a couple of years now and for the past..4 or 5 years it was only used to stay offline in a carrier in some random place and got logged in maybe 2 times a year P
NightCrawler 85
Phoibe Enterprises
#3 - 2013-03-18 22:24:46 UTC
Orlacc
#4 - 2013-03-18 22:31:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Orlacc
I sometimes use an alt. But generally no. You will know if you need/want one. Mine was an Orca pilot i used for mobile ops. She still is available but I let the acct lapse as I am doing something else now.

On this acct I have, along with my main, a toon for buying and selling. Trained in trade matters.

"Measure Twice, Cut Once."

Sundiata Arran
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2013-03-18 22:38:52 UTC
Thanks for the insight.

I plan to be a covops/recon pilot, but there doesn't seem to be a lot of isk in that. I was thinking I wouldn't need an alt to also be an explorer, where you can make some isk I think. Of course, it would be easier with an alt miner tagging along on my adventures.

For now, I think I'll stick to my single still-rookie pilot rather than starting a new alt.
NightCrawler 85
Phoibe Enterprises
#6 - 2013-03-18 23:10:15 UTC
Sundiata Arran wrote:
Thanks for the insight.

I plan to be a covops/recon pilot, but there doesn't seem to be a lot of isk in that. I was thinking I wouldn't need an alt to also be an explorer, where you can make some isk I think. Of course, it would be easier with an alt miner tagging along on my adventures.

For now, I think I'll stick to my single still-rookie pilot rather than starting a new alt.


Remember that you dont have to do the same thing all the time. Sometimes there will be a roam you want to go to, sometimes you will want to spend some time scouting for someone, and other times you might find your self wanting to just do some mining and chat with corp members because your to drunk/lazy to do something else.
EVE has a lot of "downtime" where you have to create your own entertainment and as you get older you will have skills to easely switch between your different..roles...when you feel like it.

So for now, if you want to focus on one character, dont obsess about getting the "max" skills in everything. Spread it out a bit and get them to the point were you feel efficient enough. As an example, if you want to mine you dont "need" barge level 5. Get it to the point where you can fly a Retriever and you will be fine and you can switch to train for some exploration skills.

The only ones you want to focus on is your core certificates. They will cover a lot of what you will need no matter what ship you use.
Alex Grison
Grison Universal
#7 - 2013-03-18 23:39:24 UTC
Some Mains have alts.

But not all alts have mains.

Most of the alts are my imaginary friends.

yes

Gizznitt Malikite
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
#8 - 2013-03-18 23:42:30 UTC

A couple thoughts:

PvP is generally expensive... How you fund it is completely your choice. Some people rat in their "down time" to make isk with their main.... Others use alts to make their isk.

As posted above, there are many useful reasons to have alts.
Scouts, Cyno Generators, Specialized Pilots, Isk Generators, and many more.

I didn't have alts for a while, but eventually found the added flexibility they provided was awesome... The ability to move items from trade hubs to/from my corp logistic points, the ability to scout myself, the ability to cyno my own ships... Additionally, alts allowed me to explore different areas of the game that my main just wasn't skilled for. (like T2 Manufacturing)

There are also many passive forms of income in this game which you can use to fund your game time. PI, RP, Some types of Manufacturing, R&D, are all general activities that you install a job, come back a day, week, or even month later and collect the results. They don't need to be on other accounts, and can really supplement your income...

For example: A PI alt with 5 planets in lowsec can easily bring in 1.2m isk/planet per day. If you use two account slots, take the month per character to train them up, you'll have 360m isk coming in per month for a fairly little amount of activity. And that's a lowball figure... some people pull in 500m monthly per character in PI...

P.S. You can easily RP your funding to make sense to you.... I have my own corporation of my alts, perhaps the alts are working for the corporation, and the corp pays my main because [insert reason].
Sundiata Arran
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2013-03-19 00:43:58 UTC
Gizznitt Malikite wrote:

A couple thoughts:

PvP is generally expensive... How you fund it is completely your choice. Some people rat in their "down time" to make isk with their main.... Others use alts to make their isk.

As posted above, there are many useful reasons to have alts.
Scouts, Cyno Generators, Specialized Pilots, Isk Generators, and many more.

I didn't have alts for a while, but eventually found the added flexibility they provided was awesome... The ability to move items from trade hubs to/from my corp logistic points, the ability to scout myself, the ability to cyno my own ships... Additionally, alts allowed me to explore different areas of the game that my main just wasn't skilled for. (like T2 Manufacturing)

There are also many passive forms of income in this game which you can use to fund your game time. PI, RP, Some types of Manufacturing, R&D, are all general activities that you install a job, come back a day, week, or even month later and collect the results. They don't need to be on other accounts, and can really supplement your income...

For example: A PI alt with 5 planets in lowsec can easily bring in 1.2m isk/planet per day. If you use two account slots, take the month per character to train them up, you'll have 360m isk coming in per month for a fairly little amount of activity. And that's a lowball figure... some people pull in 500m monthly per character in PI...

P.S. You can easily RP your funding to make sense to you.... I have my own corporation of my alts, perhaps the alts are working for the corporation, and the corp pays my main because [insert reason].

That's part about the researching and manufacturing is interesting. I think a second toon on the same account could do that. I might be able to role play that. But I don't think it would work for the scouting, at least for me.
Kitty Bear
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#10 - 2013-03-19 01:10:48 UTC
I've never felt the need really.

Since CCP changed the RP system I don't know how viable a research alt is anymore, but they were always a longterm investment anyway.

If you want to do more than dabble in PI, 1-2 extra alts should make it much more cost effective
12+ Planets producing t2+ goods should give a reasonable return, and PI has minimal SP requirements, so very little training time is removed from your main.



If your thinking about it because everyone else 'appears' to have alts, then it's not the right reason.

Why do you want an Alt?
What do you want the alt for?
Will the Alt need a 2nd Account?
can you afford a 2nd account?
are some of the questions that you need to answer.

Planning on Plexing for a 2nd account is planning to turn eve into a job, that makes eve stop being fun.
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#11 - 2013-03-19 01:24:45 UTC
Alts are fairly commonplace, as stated above they can be used for specialised roles, I only have the one account but I have all three character slots in use. One for my trade alt/hauler, my main (this character), and my former main (and oldest character) that now gets used when I fancy being an arsehat.

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Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
#12 - 2013-03-19 01:37:17 UTC
You know how nullbears claim all of hisec are just their own alts?

Works both ways. That's all I'm sayin' Blink

http://youtu.be/t0q2F8NsYQ0

Lost Greybeard
Drunken Yordles
#13 - 2013-03-19 02:38:11 UTC
Pretty much everyone has same-account alts for forums or training or low-cost pvp.

The people that have multiple account alts tend to be doing things that are... um, really bloody boring.
Rhugor
Viziam
#14 - 2013-03-19 04:33:17 UTC
I started an alt account shortly after my main, I didn't like the idea of not being able to train alts at the same time as my main. It was a hauler primarily for when I mine to keep me from running back and forth but I don't plan on keeping it past the initial friend account bonus. I can definitely see where it would be a viable option for some, but for me the benefits don't cover the cost. Your mileage may vary.
Xercodo
Cruor Angelicus
#15 - 2013-03-19 05:13:34 UTC
I'm true with one char for all my functional stuff.

But I do have a "same account" alt for keeping my corp open.

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J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#16 - 2013-03-19 06:24:37 UTC
I have 7 accounts with a total of 19 characters....so yes.

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Lors Dornick
Kallisti Industries
#17 - 2013-03-19 09:28:29 UTC
Alts in term of using all 3 slots on one account is quite common to be able to use more 'slots' for research, industry, PI, forum posters and such.

Second accounts are also quite common and often used as some form of booster as in extra dps, hauling, leadership, pretending to actually have friends and such.

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Charles Burger
Reckless Abandon
#18 - 2013-03-19 10:13:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Charles Burger
If you don't know why you need an alt, then you don't need one.

My main is in RvB blowing things up. One of my alts makes ISK for me. The other hauls ships from Jita for me to get exploded.
It would not be possible to do it all on 1 character... my mission running and hauling ships would get blown up. I could combine my mission runner and hauler but it's more convenient to keep them separate.
All 3 chars are on 1 account, I only have 1. It is absolutely not essential to have more than 1. If you don't know why you need more than 1, then you don't need more than 1 Smile
From a role-playing point of view what's wrong with having 3 player characters who subcontract to each other...
Roime
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#19 - 2013-03-19 10:40:26 UTC
Alts are like a drug habit, awesome for a while, and in the end really hard to shake off even if you wanted. Yes, they will improve your EVE gameplay and enable a mass of stuff that is impossible for one character. But they break the immersion. I originally RPed (just for my own enjoyment) my alts as a way to justify them, but now they have just "melted" into "me".

Most of my corpies have only one character, and I envy them. Regardless of having the luxury of an Orca/Prowler/indy/perfect PI/CS V/perfect Legion booster/soon Archon alt and an all Vs all races covops/bomber alt, plus two other 6-planet PI alts and a skilled trader. Oh and a disposable covops alt :D

So you need to weigh quality of life with immersion. It might be more fun to have just one main.

I could sell my high SP alts for a serious pile of ISK, but I've grown very attached to them and all the things they make possible.

#firstworldproblems

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Eliniale
Co-operative Resource Extraction
#20 - 2013-03-19 12:00:37 UTC
Sundiata Arran wrote:
I'm just wondering. From reading the forums people are constantly talking about their alts. Are there any regular experienced users of this index who play it "straight?" I'm attracted to the roleplaying side of RPG. It feels very gamey to me to have an alternate character around who's sole purpose is to spring traps at gatecamps or slave away for isk, while the main character buys ships and stuff.

I guess another question is: Is it possible to enjoy a PVP/PVE career without the added isk?


I have played eve for for years on only one character, and have not suffered much adverse effects because of this.
Recently I have made an alt however, so i can be in more places at once, and have some more **** and giggles. But this is by no means a requirement.

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