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Azami Nevinyrall
172.0.0.1
#61 - 2013-03-16 17:48:20 UTC
Goddamned American Capitalist wrote:
So you're saying that I don't want moon goo fixed? Hell, I'd probably log in immediately and reactivate the inactive accounts I have if I were shown proof that moon goo had been shut off completely.

If CCP even thinks about that, all the Powerbloc owners will tell their "drones" to unsub all their alts and shoot a statue in protest.

And CCP knows this...

...
Goddamned American Capitalist
Doomheim
#62 - 2013-03-16 17:50:48 UTC
Azami Nevinyrall wrote:
Goddamned American Capitalist wrote:
So you're saying that I don't want moon goo fixed? Hell, I'd probably log in immediately and reactivate the inactive accounts I have if I were shown proof that moon goo had been shut off completely.

If CCP even thinks about that, all the Powerbloc owners will tell their "drones" to unsub all their alts and shoot a statue in protest.

And CCP knows this...


So you're saying that the "only those who have it want it fixed" is a blatant lie?
Felicity Love
Doomheim
#63 - 2013-03-16 17:57:03 UTC
... puts on overpriced "Tech-foilhat"... with monocle and chinstrap. Blink

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Azami Nevinyrall
172.0.0.1
#64 - 2013-03-16 17:57:48 UTC
Goddamned American Capitalist wrote:
Azami Nevinyrall wrote:
Goddamned American Capitalist wrote:
So you're saying that I don't want moon goo fixed? Hell, I'd probably log in immediately and reactivate the inactive accounts I have if I were shown proof that moon goo had been shut off completely.

If CCP even thinks about that, all the Powerbloc owners will tell their "drones" to unsub all their alts and shoot a statue in protest.

And CCP knows this...


So you're saying that the "only those who have it want it fixed" is a blatant lie?

If you had a broken "ATM" (for lack of a better word.) Would you want it fixed?

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Goddamned American Capitalist
Doomheim
#65 - 2013-03-16 18:00:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Goddamned American Capitalist
Azami Nevinyrall wrote:
Goddamned American Capitalist wrote:
Azami Nevinyrall wrote:
Goddamned American Capitalist wrote:
So you're saying that I don't want moon goo fixed? Hell, I'd probably log in immediately and reactivate the inactive accounts I have if I were shown proof that moon goo had been shut off completely.

If CCP even thinks about that, all the Powerbloc owners will tell their "drones" to unsub all their alts and shoot a statue in protest.

And CCP knows this...


So you're saying that the "only those who have it want it fixed" is a blatant lie?

If you had a broken "ATM" (for lack of a better word.) Would you want it fixed?


Call me crazy or stupid or whatever, but I had several broken ATMs, realized they were broken ATMs and walked away from them.

There are many other ways to make significant amounts of ISK in 0.0, the difference is that they all require work and moon goo doesn't. I know of several people who only have their moons because they want to AFK generate ISK. They don't want to play the game, they just want to horde the ISK.

You can make billions ratting anoms or sigs, hell rats even sit on gates in 0.0, but that is "work", that is for "peasants".

Moon Goo is the foundation of the 0.0 feudalism, remove the moon goo and you remove the blue donut.
Primary This Rifter
Mutual Fund of the Something
#66 - 2013-03-16 18:00:56 UTC
Azami Nevinyrall wrote:
Goddamned American Capitalist wrote:
So you're saying that I don't want moon goo fixed? Hell, I'd probably log in immediately and reactivate the inactive accounts I have if I were shown proof that moon goo had been shut off completely.

If CCP even thinks about that, all the Powerbloc owners will tell their "drones" to unsub all their alts and shoot a statue in protest.

And CCP knows this...

Except that's not true at all...
Pantiy
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#67 - 2013-03-16 18:25:14 UTC
DarthNefarius wrote:
Gotta like how the spacerich NULLbears try to paint SOV as too tuff while amassing TECH fortunes that'll last for years....
Every future expansion that doesn't address the moon goo bottle neck that lead to this Thunderdome™ is another expansion that in IMHO will lead to NULL's stagnation....
While I understand Shaddooo's tactical desire to have TECH funded gudfights for his owns everlasting tech funded wars the rest of Eve will suffer...
Instead of misdirecting all Eve's ills on HI SEC lets point it at were its due: its time to break the near TECH monoploy CCPAttention



Not really sure where you get your info from but let me tell you where im at. i live in null, i pvp in null, i die in null. i have around 30m isk, 2 ships and no implants, where you get the idea we are all rich is beyond me. do the leaders of these alliances need to start making the members rich? hell yes its time we all get a cut.
As far as the expansions lets just wait and see. the Gm's/dev,s always have a vision but we as the players always tend to dement it to our own.
I fly what shadoo very often and let me tell you that the fights we get while a lot are booked in advance are fun for the sake of it. win or lose, thats what its about FUN<---- and to that end it shows the point of how bad the system of sov actually is. even the OLD system was better then this one.
High sec has nothing wrong with it in my opinion. leave it be, its where all the washed up players go or where the new ones start, i think of high sec like a hospital, its where your born and its where youll die.
Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#68 - 2013-03-16 18:30:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Mallak Azaria
Goddamned American Capitalist wrote:
I know, they say they do want it fixed, but I don't see them packing up all of their moon harvesters and ceasing production, do you?


Because like pre-nerf highsec incursions & FW mechanics or the current 150m isk/hour Forsaken Hubs, we'd be stupid to not take advantage of it while it's there. This doesn't mean we don't think it should be changed or don't want it changed

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Tom Gerard
Glorious Nation of Kazakhstan
#69 - 2013-03-16 18:30:18 UTC
The solution is already determined: Ring Mining

it just is not being implemented.

Now with 100% less Troll.
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
#70 - 2013-03-16 18:30:59 UTC
Andski wrote:
"CCP please nerf wardecs and suicide ganking even further, I can't stand the thought of having to defend myself since that doesn't result in wallet++"



CCP please nerf dogpiling.... well thnx CCP
An' then Chicken@little.com, he come scramblin outta the    Terminal room screaming "The system's crashing! The system's    crashing!" -Uncle RAMus, 'Tales for Cyberpsychotic Children'
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
#71 - 2013-03-16 18:43:56 UTC
Katran Luftschreck wrote:
Having actually read the linked article it looks to me like Shadoo is trying to recreate his own version of CCP's own FW system over in Cloud Ring.


^^ +1

An' then Chicken@little.com, he come scramblin outta the    Terminal room screaming "The system's crashing! The system's    crashing!" -Uncle RAMus, 'Tales for Cyberpsychotic Children'
Goddamned American Capitalist
Doomheim
#72 - 2013-03-16 19:04:22 UTC
Mallak Azaria wrote:
Goddamned American Capitalist wrote:
I know, they say they do want it fixed, but I don't see them packing up all of their moon harvesters and ceasing production, do you?


Because like pre-nerf highsec incursions & FW mechanics or the current 150m isk/hour Forsaken Hubs, we'd be stupid to not take advantage of it while it's there. This doesn't mean we don't think it should be changed or don't want it changed


I call bullshit.

You don't want **** changed, if you did you'd do something about it like shooting monuments in Jita until CCP changed it.

It is easy to say you want it changed on the forums; to actually do something about it, not so much.

I bet if it were an attempt to nerf high-sec or anything that didn't remove the source of your wealth, we'd have whole regions of monuments being shot to ****.

You say you want it changed, how about you actually put action to your words, otherwise you're just posturing on the forums and blowing smoke up our collective asses.
Dave Stark
#73 - 2013-03-16 19:08:31 UTC
and what exactly can players do, to change the situation?

until ccp has something to replace it with the system will stay there regardless of how many unsubs happen and however many monuments get shot.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#74 - 2013-03-16 19:14:37 UTC
Goddamned American Capitalist wrote:
I call bullshit.

You don't want **** changed, if you did you'd do something about it like
…consistently badgering CCP about how it's broken and then put on a freeze on the activities that catch the big headlines in media.

Quote:
You say you want it changed, how about you actually put action to your words
You mean exactly like they're doing?
Goddamned American Capitalist
Doomheim
#75 - 2013-03-16 19:18:42 UTC
Shooting monuments and unsubbing seemed to work in the past. Besides that, there doesn't need to be a replacement for them to turn off the moons.

There's more than likely enough T2 Materials stockpiled to hold the industry over until they can seed asteroids with moon goo or whatever they choose to do to give us a non-passive replacement.

They could also seed markets with set amounts per day in the interim, less than ideal though still better than just printing ISK for everyone who has moon harvesters.

Can't forget that the unsubbing and shooting monuments does seem to light a fire under CCP's ass.

If it is the income you're worried about they could always just increase rat bounties by 10% or so, oh wait, ratting is work.
Goddamned American Capitalist
Doomheim
#76 - 2013-03-16 19:21:00 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Goddamned American Capitalist wrote:
I call bullshit.

You don't want **** changed, if you did you'd do something about it like
…consistently badgering CCP about how it's broken and then put on a freeze on the activities that catch the big headlines in media.

Quote:
You say you want it changed, how about you actually put action to your words
You mean exactly like they're doing?


What exactly are they doing? I don't see the forums flooded with "CHANGE MOON GOO NAO!!!!!!", "**** MOON GOO" or any other threads similar to what happened with Incarna and WiS.

That'd be a nice start.
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#77 - 2013-03-16 19:24:32 UTC
Beekeeper Bob wrote:
How many incursion runners does it take to balance out one tech moon? Smile


less than one

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#78 - 2013-03-16 19:25:16 UTC
Goddamned American Capitalist wrote:
What exactly are they doing?
See OP.

Quote:
I don't see the forums flooded with "CHANGE MOON GOO NAO!!!!!!", "**** MOON GOO" or any other threads similar to what happened with Incarna and WiS.

That'd be a nice start.
…you're about three years late.
Goddamned American Capitalist
Doomheim
#79 - 2013-03-16 19:30:28 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Goddamned American Capitalist wrote:
What exactly are they doing?
See OP.

Quote:
I don't see the forums flooded with "CHANGE MOON GOO NAO!!!!!!", "**** MOON GOO" or any other threads similar to what happened with Incarna and WiS.

That'd be a nice start.
…you're about three years late.


Then the people who made those threads need to stop being lazy and keep them alive or did they just go take some moons for themselves and join the club?

We need to change moon goo, wait, no, let's get some moon goo and hope everyone forgets about it, let those threads die.....
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#80 - 2013-03-16 19:31:26 UTC
Goddamned American Capitalist wrote:
Mallak Azaria wrote:
Goddamned American Capitalist wrote:
I know, they say they do want it fixed, but I don't see them packing up all of their moon harvesters and ceasing production, do you?


Because like pre-nerf highsec incursions & FW mechanics or the current 150m isk/hour Forsaken Hubs, we'd be stupid to not take advantage of it while it's there. This doesn't mean we don't think it should be changed or don't want it changed


I call bullshit.

You don't want **** changed, if you did you'd do something about it like shooting monuments in Jita until CCP changed it.

It is easy to say you want it changed on the forums; to actually do something about it, not so much.

I bet if it were an attempt to nerf high-sec or anything that didn't remove the source of your wealth, we'd have whole regions of monuments being shot to ****.

You say you want it changed, how about you actually put action to your words, otherwise you're just posturing on the forums and blowing smoke up our collective asses.


it's not like we've shown everyone how tech is broken, the scale at which it's broken, what we can do with our broken tech income and how CCP could actually balance moons instead of sitting around making useless crap like pants

no, we've been very subtle about our massive income and how other alliances make peanuts in contrast, even with renter empires, we definitely didn't spend a couple hundred billion ISK burning jita and proceeding to pay hisec to destroy itself

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar