Intergalactic Summit

Hmm interesting. Perhaps it is observing, but for what purpose remains unseen. Drone programming is complex. If only one could capture it and do diagnostics. I would be quite interested to experiment with such a drone. I have not witnessed this behavior from rouge drones but I do live far from Amarr space.

Ummm... yeah... well ok. Both times were inside gravemetric Omber sites in Ammatar space. Both times it was a single Silverfish Alvi. Oddly enough both sites also contained what looked to be the wreckage Caldari research stations that had apparently been destroyed by "spatial rifts" that seemed to be focused inside the station wreckage.

Hmmm... you don't think they might be investigating that do you? Because that would sound a lot like trying to understand the foundations of wormhole technology... and if that's true, then maybe all those Sleeper conspiracies may be right.

This gets curiouser & curiouser.

I am thinking the drone is wondering why she hasn't sent over the flowers and candy. It obviously wants a date...Dinner dancing a movie....maybe a lil Kal and Rogue cuddling..

M.

Rouge drones are not people. They are machines programmed only to kill and destroy. Their only function is to serve their hive (or the hives if all rouge drones are a collective entity).

These drones can build themselves mind you. If they wanted peace, they would of created a drone specifically for communicating with us. This is more like walking into the Summit fully armed and pointing your gun at everyone.

While I cringe a little every time one of my own drones "die", they are not people and never will be. What more the rouge drones? If they are anything like us, then they only have our bad traits. Hate, violence, greed, etc. The first drones that went rouge were military drones mind you. Their primary directive has always been and always will be to kill.

My advice, is to call in some back up and kill the thing, then wait to see if it's death triggers the arrival of a swarm. Then gun the swarm down.

Like I said earlier, even if the drones wanted to bring about a new era of peace, they wouldn't send a random drone to the middle of a less frequented asteroid field to stare at miner that likes to go there. I'd imagine that if they wanted peace, they would first establish direct contact with one of the Big Four, or CONCORD if the Drones are truly intelligent.

I believe you have misunderstood what I said. It was less focused on the actual workings of a Rouge Drone and more on the silliness of thinking they suddenly want peace or deserve respect and compassion.

I am no expert on the technical aspects of Rouge Drones, but I can certainly confirm that they are not programmed to play nicely.

Actually there is no proof of that. That they were machines programmed to kill and destroy is true, but the whole reason that they're considered rogue in the first place is that they went against their programming. By achieving sentience they have gained the ability to reprogram themselves in new directions and into new forms. The mere fact that they have workers for their hives (and for that matter, hives themselves) is proof enough for this.

I'd even say they exhibit more sense of self-determination than a lot of humans I've met over the years. Have you seen some of the propaganda devouring automatons that show up in the IGS sometimes? Some sort of random variable created them, and more random variables must be at work in their current programming if they are to continue evolving. Eventually that randomization will eventually create a non-aggressive drone. Perhaps this has already happened.

You could say that it's a "bug" and that would be true, but all mutations, both biological and otherwise, are "bugs" - and they power evolution as we know it. And if we, acting as a military presence in space, conduct a bit of "unnatural selection" in sparing those non-aggressive drones then we can skew the numbers in their build-cycles to favor that trait in their overall hive network. Yes, I've dabbled in biology and it's relation to artificial life forms. Eventually the non-aggressive "gene" can be cultivated to the point where actual communication can be attempted at some later point.

I'm still curious about the spacial rift connection... if there is any. Anyone from the State care to chime in on what the heck they were doing on those stations before they blew up? State stations in Ammatar space are nothing new, even research stations. Nothing shady about that, it's part of our arrangement. But I'd still like to know what they were working on since something obviously went wrong - if for security reasons if nothing else.

What you say seems to make a lot of sense to me. If your theory of a passive "gene" developing in rogue drone populations is correct, we could put this to use. My idea is to capture this drone, and take it apart if possible. Then we could isolate the passive gene and maybe create a computer virus of some sort, that can be delivered in large amounts to drone hives all over New Eden.

I'm not sure if this would be possible. Again, I'm not an expert on rogue drones at all. For all we know, they are programmed in a way we can't even decipher and locating this passive gene would be impossible. But if this works, we will not only stop the rogue drone threat, but also have opportunities to study and attempt to communicate with them. We might discover that they are more "human" than we originally thought. After all, we did create them. I personally don't think that will be the case, but I've been wrong so many times before.

Random variables and evolutionary thinking is the foundation of all human led AI research. If there are never any random variables added to their programming then how do they evolve? The certainly don't look exactly like their ancestors so why should we assume that they think exactly like them either?

Many Rogue Drone entities can Incorporate Objects that they find in Space, into their systems. This includes technological artifacts from a variety of Sources, that give the resulting Drone Entities additional or different capabilities.

Example: If a Drone encounters a New kind of Propulsion Device, later drones constructed by the owning Hive may have that device included in their systems. Refining Equipment that allows processing of different Minerals can also be incorporated into later Drone generations.

This is One Way in which the Rogue Drone entities change over time. You will Note that it means that capsuleer battlefields are a potential source of a Great Deal of artifacts that Drones may adapt for their own purposes.



With the Phenomenon of artifact acquisition and incorporation, it may be Possible to Influence a Drone Hive.

Non-Violent technological Devices, deposited in Substantial Numbers where the Drones can Acquire them, may change the Drones constructed by the Hive.

Example: Logistic and Mining Drones. These have non-Hostile behaviour, and if incorporated into the Hive, may alter the overall Behaviour.

I read something almost completely identical to this once... it was a treatise on tech three cruisers. Food for thought?




Human? No. Alive? Yes, in a sense.

Even the lowliest bacteria can evolve, consume & create more of itself. They defend territory, form hives and create structures. Now we're up to the insect and animal level of intelligence.

And the threshold of sentience that separates humans from animals? We've seen that they communicate. They have language. How much more evidence is needed?

Carbon or steel, life always follows the same rules & patterns. So yes, using biological concepts when talking about the rogue drones is completely appropriate.