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EVE turns us Evil

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Keno Skir
#41 - 2013-03-15 11:34:17 UTC
Jayson Kassis wrote:
Being mean and selfish is easy. Being kind and unselfish is difficult.


Absolutely bang on bro.

Games give us the ability to live a different persona for a short time. But this persona is a window to our real one always. If you play a long running game and act like a douche because you can, chances are you would do that in real life if the bullies from school wouldn't wedgie you half way up your back for it.
Jori McKie
Horde Vanguard.
Pandemic Horde
#42 - 2013-03-15 11:41:19 UTC
Mara Rinn wrote:
I got banned from WoW forums for a post that by EVE standards was very helpful and informative.

Does that make me evil or good?


What the hell, that made me actually laugh....

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." - Abrazzar

Frying Doom
#43 - 2013-03-15 11:44:22 UTC
Yes I too was a happy, friendly guy turned evil by this game...

Oh sorry I was thinking of someone else....Lol

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!

Whitehound
#44 - 2013-03-15 11:47:52 UTC
Jori McKie wrote:
Mara Rinn wrote:
I got banned from WoW forums for a post that by EVE standards was very helpful and informative.

Does that make me evil or good?


What the hell, that made me actually laugh....

I had a similar experience on the Skyrim forums, where I received a temp ban for "causing arguments". I wish the signs for when one should leave a place were always this clear.

Loss is meaningful. Therefore is the loss of meaning likewise meaningful. It is the source of all trolling.

Mhax Arthie
Doomheim
#45 - 2013-03-15 12:30:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Mhax Arthie
Funny, In WoW I was an absolute azhole and I got even banned for doing abusive stuff against other players. In EVE where CCP is educating you in being a total scumbag... I just can't do anything bad, I actually help people and I feel very bad if I scam someone. So in my case, as hilarious it sounds, EVE made me a good person. Maybe I need some medical help or get back to WoW :S
Ana Vyr
Vyral Technologies
#46 - 2013-03-15 12:32:47 UTC
You already were evil.

EvE just brought it out. Strong the dark side is, quicker, more seductive.
Shadow Lord77
Shadow Industries I
#47 - 2013-03-15 12:44:51 UTC
I love you. You love me. We're a happy family. :D
KuroVolt
The Legion of Spoon
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
#48 - 2013-03-15 12:47:22 UTC
Marcus Gord wrote:
Silvara Nocturn wrote:
I can never get myself to press down on the throttle when the deer is caught in my headlights. Eve does not turn you evil, it shows you what you are capable off.


When you have no restrictions, it's amazing what some people can do.


Real power is not to do.
Real power is knowing what you can do and still deciding not to do it.

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Altessa Post
Midnight special super sexy
#49 - 2013-03-15 15:28:37 UTC
EVE reminded me about cultural differences. It is a big planet and we are not all the same. We do not necessarily share the same set of values. You have to be aware of this and you are not disappointed.

On the internet, you can be whatever you want to be. It is amazing that so many people chose to be stupid.

Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#50 - 2013-03-15 15:39:12 UTC
Mhax Arthie wrote:
Funny, In WoW I was an absolute azhole and I got even banned for doing abusive stuff against other players. In EVE where CCP is educating you in being a total scumbag... I just can't do anything bad, I actually help people and I feel very bad if I scam someone. So in my case, as hilarious it sounds, EVE made me a good person. Maybe I need some medical help or get back to WoW :S


Sounds like a little freedom was the therapy you needed.

What virtue is there in forced goodness?

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016

baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#51 - 2013-03-15 15:40:58 UTC
I got banned from STO for role playing a goon cyno alt from EVE looking for hotdrop targets.
silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
#52 - 2013-03-15 15:41:52 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
Mhax Arthie wrote:
Funny, In WoW I was an absolute azhole and I got even banned for doing abusive stuff against other players. In EVE where CCP is educating you in being a total scumbag... I just can't do anything bad, I actually help people and I feel very bad if I scam someone. So in my case, as hilarious it sounds, EVE made me a good person. Maybe I need some medical help or get back to WoW :S


Sounds like a little freedom was the therapy you needed.

What virtue is there in forced goodness?

Indeed. Only through freedom of choice can we embrace that which is true - Be it good or evil.

Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing.

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Nuela
WoT Misfits
#53 - 2013-03-15 15:54:51 UTC
KuroVolt wrote:
Ive been playing this game for about 6 years now and it hasnt affected my morals one bit.

Maybe you were *evil* all along, or maybe only the weak fall to the dark lures of the game.

All in all, Heathen pirate scum, Amarr Victor etc..etc..etc...



Weirdly enough I thought I would be evil scum in this game when I started.

However, I'm pretty 'good' from a D&D perspective...well maybe not Good per se but Neutral with good tendnecies.

Not sure why. I think it's because it is 'cool' and 'popular' to be 'evil' in this game. That turns me off. I like to take the path lesser traveled.

Or Kuro has a point :D

Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#54 - 2013-03-15 16:09:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Ranger 1
Quote:
Games give us the ability to live a different persona for a short time. But this persona is a window to our real one always. If you play a long running game and act like a douche because you can, chances are you would do that in real life if the bullies from school wouldn't wedgie you half way up your back for it.


What a load of rubbish. Smile

OP, there is absolutely nothing wrong with playing a bad guy in a game if you enjoy it and are comfortable with it. It is not, and has never been, and measure of your moral fortitude.

RPG's by design allow a person to portray character traits other than their norm, if they wish. It's rather one of the main points of the game.

Anyone who feels that a players in game actions can only reflect who they "really" are is having serious difficulty separating reality and fiction.

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Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#55 - 2013-03-15 16:14:24 UTC
Ranger 1 wrote:
Quote:
Games give us the ability to live a different persona for a short time. But this persona is a window to our real one always. If you play a long running game and act like a douche because you can, chances are you would do that in real life if the bullies from school wouldn't wedgie you half way up your back for it.


What a load of rubbish. Smile

OP, there is absolutely nothing wrong with playing a bad guy in a game if you enjoy it and are comfortable with it. It is not, and has never been, and measure of your moral fortitude.

RPG's by design allow a person to portray character traits other than their norm, if they wish. It's rather one of the main points of the game.

Anyone who feels that a players in game actions can only reflect who they "really" are is having serious difficulty separating realtiy and fiction.


Anthony Hopkins is a murderous psychotic cannibal because he pretended to be Hannibal Lecter c/d?

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016

Winchester Steele
#56 - 2013-03-15 16:20:45 UTC
Keno Skir wrote:
Jayson Kassis wrote:
Being mean and selfish is easy. Being kind and unselfish is difficult.


Absolutely bang on bro.

Games give us the ability to live a different persona for a short time. But this persona is a window to our real one always. If you play a long running game and act like a douche because you can, chances are you would do that in real life if the bullies from school wouldn't wedgie you half way up your back for it.



Wow. Sorry, but you couldn't possibly be more wrong here. It's a game. I play to win using the ruleset at hand. AWOXing, scamming, ganking are all legitimate tactics to reach my goals, and my use of those "underhanded" tactics tells you absolutely nothing about me in RL. To imply otherwise clearly demonstrates your own inability to separate reality from fiction.

Oh gee, Stephen King is always writing about murderers and psychotic people. He MUST be a psychotic murderer amirite?

Honestly, this type of self-righteous drivel is baffling to me. It's just a video game "bro", there is no necessary correlation between how people play and how they behave in RL. You can toss out whatever ad hominem arguments you want to, it doesnt change the fact that most people don't take their space pixels as seriously as you obviously do.

You must be a real joy to play Monopoly with though. "How dare you build that hotel on Boardwalk?!?! Clearly you are a heartless capitalist monster bent on the eradication of the poor and the weak!"



...

silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
#57 - 2013-03-15 16:30:09 UTC
Jayson Kassis wrote:
Being mean and selfish is easy. Being kind and unselfish is difficult.

Not so.

We are whatever we practice being. When we practice 'kind and unselfish,' it becomes a habit, just like any other.

Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing.

Didn't vote? Then you voted for NulBloc

Radamant Nemess
Remnants of War
#58 - 2013-03-15 16:40:31 UTC
this thread is going places...

also, philosophy is strong in you these days...

i can fail at any speed you like

Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#59 - 2013-03-15 16:42:09 UTC
EvE didnt turn me evil, it just let my natural state shine through.

Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?

Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#60 - 2013-03-15 16:43:07 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
Ranger 1 wrote:
Quote:
Games give us the ability to live a different persona for a short time. But this persona is a window to our real one always. If you play a long running game and act like a douche because you can, chances are you would do that in real life if the bullies from school wouldn't wedgie you half way up your back for it.


What a load of rubbish. Smile

OP, there is absolutely nothing wrong with playing a bad guy in a game if you enjoy it and are comfortable with it. It is not, and has never been, and measure of your moral fortitude.

RPG's by design allow a person to portray character traits other than their norm, if they wish. It's rather one of the main points of the game.

Anyone who feels that a players in game actions can only reflect who they "really" are is having serious difficulty separating realtiy and fiction.


Anthony Hopkins is a murderous psychotic cannibal because he pretended to be Hannibal Lecter c/d?

Well okay, you found ONE example of type casting...
SmileSmileSmile

View the latest EVE Online developments and other game related news and gameplay by visiting Ranger 1 Presents: Virtual Realms.