Ships & Modules

Too much speculation...
I don't feel very confident about em...claims for increased speed / agility make me happy, but I am pretty positive that the increased benefits from BS Guns (and/or launchers) will be offset-ted by other limitations - like slot layout, drone bays and/or fitting limitations.

• DPS wise I doubt they will be higher than most current Tier 2 BCs...and that's not bad, considering those do get VERY good DPS already...all but the Myrm...the increased alpha and range will be the deciding factor. I doubt they want to kill the BS as a DPS boat completely. So either forget about multiple dmg bonuses, or forget about # of turrets. You will get BS range, BC cost, BC DPS, BC rig size, BC agility + speed. Tier 2 BCs will remain the "jacks of all trades" those are today - just like the tier 2 BSs - and the Tier 3s will most likely be DPS focused, but not the insane DPS-pwnage ppl describe.
• If all of those will be turret boats, I doubt they will get the insane tracking bonuses ppl are wishing for...that would make them too versatile against all sizes of ships, effectively killing the BS as a DPS boat. I think those should still have large turret basic tracking - with maybe some exceptions, ideally for the blaster/hybrid boats to offset other limitations.
• If say the tornado is as ganky as the Cane, with better agility and large AC or artie range/alpha, I doubt it will have 2x utility slots with enough fitting to fit 2x neuts etc...it cannot be a more agile cane with the same neuting power and the range of a nano-tempest...I would guess it would be less tanky and way more tight in fitting than the cane, probably with worse slot layout too...
• Caldari: Range bonused only Rails and/or blasters for the Caldari version would be painful (unless the new blasters are completely broken to boot with!) but - again, unless they want to make BSs obsolete - we cannot be thinking another missile boat: remember, the cruise raven is hardly any better than a Fury spawing HML drake due to dmg mitigation on smaller targets. And if a cruise equipted Tier 3 BC won't be better than a Tier 2 BS (logical), it won't be any better than the Drake...and range past this of the HML's platform is rarely useful (why ppl don't use cerb much). Don't get me started with Torps...even with a full set of "SB-like" special bonuses, that would mean that the new ship will be meant only for hot-dropping on lonly BCs and BSs...fragile, fast and ganky...meh, just get the SB that cloaks too!
• Gallente: It cannot be a drone boat, can it ? Meh...lets hope for the blaster changes more than we do for drones...
• Amarr: I want to see the cap that will sustain mega pulses...
• Nano-Drake will probably be the king still...

The current bonuses on the gallente and amarr ones seem pretty bizarre, they seem like good bonuses that will help those ships but a tracking bonus on a T1 amarr hull and a web bonus on a gallente hull aren't consistant with the "normal" racial bonuses. I personally think that's bad but that's really just my personal opinion.

The Tornado should be able to fit 8 1400's... it's gonna mean an end to the AlphaMael i bet. Spend 40m on a hull and get the same alpha

It's funny because as tier 3 battlecruisers these will probably begin to cost as much as tier 1 battleships, perhaps getting close to tier 2 battleship price.

I would figure that a tier 3 battlecruiser would be an AGILE battleship weapons platform. I would also imagine focus on rate of fire instead of flat damage (because ROF gives a massive DPS increase anyway.) Flat damage bonuses are no good, ROF is where it's at. And agility. The ships should be quick and paper. Think about real world ships in the sea that were literally built just to hold one or two guns that were oversized for its class. Almost like a mini-dreadnought. That's what I'm hoping we'll see.

I think they should stay an all purpose platform with a few marginal changes. Keep them as a jack of all trades, just with slightly more capability.

5% More Cap
5% More Speed
5% More Shield/Armor/Hull
5% More Power
5% More CPU

Leave the fittings the same (assuming they are revisions of current models and not new models)
Make the ship bonus add an additional small bonus to whatever modules are installed

BUT make the agility lower from the increased mass, lower the cargo volume by 15%, and make the signature radius larger from the increased electronics on board

AND ensure that the thing is ungodly expensive

something like the above would still allow it to do almost anything possible without making it some crazy juggernaut that displaces BS or Cruisers.

You guys say that the harbinger is Pure DPS? What do you say about it's tanking ability / speed?