Player Features and Ideas Discussion

The Knonos is a PvE ship, its not balanced for PvP.

The Kronos is a PvE ship, it's not balanced for PvP.

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Kronos is a pve ship, it should not have been gimped for pvp balancing reasons, like it was. Reverse Kronos drone nerf.

True, and this ship has the best drone bay of all the marauders. I would argue that it is the only one to really be able to use the full bandwidth.

Yeah, I forgot to mention the 3 spare hi's for utility etc, but with a lower damage bonus, worse agility, **** sensor strength, Vindi is still better.

"This "It is a PvE ship" one line reasoning is idiotic."

So, they should make buffs to the ship just because you want to throw it in pvp, right? Why does everyone suddenly believe the Kronos should be any good in pvp again? I seem to be missing that.

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I not only support the OP's reasoning, but I also feel that all the marauders could do with a rebalance. The fact is that pretty much all the marauders pale in comparison to pirate faction BS'.

I would argue that the paladin is fairly good as it does the same amount of damage as the nightmare. I haven't really noticed any situations where I would prefer a tracking bonus over the armour tank + salvage on the fly ability of the paladin. I mainly use my paladin against Sansha/Blood raiders, and for that I really feel an armour tank is better suited. So no real need to buff the paladin IMO. However, the Paladin is at least equal in isk making potential.

Golem is it's own chapter. Because it can easily fit torp launchers and gets good range with torps, it can be pretty awesome. In fact, this is the main reason I feel that other marauders could do with some tweaking. Even a blaster kronos can't keep up with a torp golem, and the torp golem has 40km range. Blaster kronos has about 20km.

Kronos does less damage than the vindicator. One could argue that the kronos can salvage on the fly, but then that doesn't always make up for it, income wise. One might actually be better off flying a vindicator, just pop all the rats, skip the salvage all together and end up with more isk/h.

Vargur is slower than the machariel and does less damage. In addition to this the mach has the ability to salvage on the go, all though one would either have to either forfeit some damage to a tractor beam, or fly close to the wrecks. The only advantage the vargur has is less ammo usage, but it pales in comparison to the increased damage potential to the mach.

The problem here being that each of the marauders are either matched or outdone by other ships for their primary task. Another advantage all the faction ships have is that they are less prone to ecm jamming, all though that is only an issue in certain missions.

T2 ships are supposed to be specialized, and they are supposed to be superior at the tasks which they were built for. It takes far more time to train for marauders, and that alone is reason enough for why they should excell at their given task.

Buff marauders!

I haven't actually flown the Vargur/Mach as I'm still training for them. From wha tI've heard and what I've seen by looking at stats, I'm fairly convinced the Mach is the better option. Imo angels salvage isn't what it used to be.

I've seen what a torp golem can do, and I don't feel it needs to do any better at what it does.

The reason I brought up blasters is because it's the only way a Kronos can do comparable damage to a Golem. Even though there are few missions where it's viable. Damsel in distress in an example of a mission where blasters perform admirably.

I think the main issue with the Kronos is hybrids. As for the drone bandwith/bay, I'd say leave the bay at 125m2, and buff the bandwitdth to 100. Hybrids are getting some love this patch, and even though I'm not convinced it will even things out (judging by the current proposed fix), there is still time, and I may yet need to eat my own words.


Regarding the Paladin and the Nightmare, actually, the Nightmare has two spare highslots. So in other words it can salvage on the fly. The only disadvantage being that it doesn't get bonuses and it gets one less salvager.

As for the whole tractor beam range thingy, well, I kind of feel that this takes away the role of salvaging ship from the Noctis. In fact, a part of me feels that marauders shouldn't be swiss army knife mission boats. I feel that they should be the kings of pve, but not particulary good at anything else.

The fact is that salvaging is in a way not really pve. This is backed up by the fact that salvage is free for all. All though I suppose a tractor range boost would at least make them slightly better at what they currently do.

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