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That part is incorrect. The two most recent incursions have been closed by a Russian group (don't remember their name) and TDF (an armor group). I agree with your statement that there is a problem, but it's up to the leaders of the incursion communities to end it.
I don't know who you fly with, but I would like to point out that ISN doesn't like being contested by a blob they can't beat, but that's the same way people in a TVP fleet feel when ISN contests them, they can't beat ISN and get a payout, but they also can't get a payout because with equal numbers, ISN wins.

tl;dr: The incursion community leaders should fix the problems they have instead of escalating the current situation.

It's okay that other fleets don't earn money because you want to earn more money.

But it's not okay if u don't earn money.

Okay, i understand.

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Mechanics are fine

you should write more about that "game mechanic" we use to prevent you from beeing paid.

On the concept of winner take all, if that is what was intended then concord should be disabled in high sec incursion pockets. If not then payouts should be split between fleets.

besides the harrassement i just petitioned against goldiiee.
its not my personal war.

even i cant multibox 100 pilots.
so there must be a reason why over 100 pilots are willingly to sacrifice their payout to make absolutley sure that ISN wont get a single isk.

again. its US. not my person alone.

I apoligize if you took my statement as a personal attack, I assumed you were role playing and the similarities of Propaganda and Screaming from a soap box were in line with the persona I thought you were trying to emulate. Again I didn't not know this was your personality and I am extreemly sorry for my misjudging of your intent.

No, they are chat channels/ out of game groups, they're all different corps/alliances.
Otherwise, wardecs would have been used long ago

Greeting's Incursion interested people...

First off, i will apologize to the thread starter, it seems despite your best intentions, that you shall have the drama spill in here; we apologize for the inconvenience. Also on behalf of the angry German, i apologize, please bear with him, he has a personal obsessive grudge with us in ISN, and he seems to desperately need to spread his grudge to everyone doing incursions, it's alright, it's a sandbox. Don't panic.

Secondly, just to comment on the actual suggestion:

"#1 is implemented. In this case, no more wait lists for engaging in group PvE content.."

We in ISN sort of "invented" using a waiting list, I'm not here to take credit for that, i would just say, no one is forcing anyone to sit on a waiting list, or make one, it is simply more efficient to maintain a fleet with one, and we are glad that others still learn from us, this is good; better contests. Contrary to popular propaganda, we actually don't mind loosing a proper contest once in a while, because it shows us there is still room for improvement. So if we, an ISK/Hour oriented community, don't mind loosing our payout on occasion, why does the majority? We are, in fact, not really bothered by this blob, we just reacted to it, in this lovely sandbox. We will most likely again, mind you, in a similar fashion react to the blob if we see it again, action; reaction.

I can tell you a little secret though, how to avoid this happening again: Don't join the blob. We just want to do our HQ fleet when we can, with the contests of chance that follows, which is not every day and not for many hours at a time, as opposed to the blob communities, who matter of factual run fleets 23/7. But it seems the blob does not agree, which is completely fair of course, everyone is entitled to their opinions. It seems the blob is of the opinion that ISN is not allowed to make ISK at all for these 4-5 hours ever second day that we can. Help help, we're being oppressed :D I suppose all there is to do, is stay tuned and see to which side the sand castle topples. I know I'm entertained.

Back to the topic at hand; the contest mechanic actually works pretty well as is i think, and i will reveal to you, since other communities have improved greatly the last half year, out of necessity i suspect (Yeah, you are welcome ^^), they have mostly improved so much that the window for actually coming in late and "yoinking" a site, is very very small to non existent. These communities now make better ISK for their members as a result of this improvement, they are safer, they should be quite happy (No really, your welcome). We don't complain about this, we have just done what we do best, adjusted, to maintain the best ISK/Hour we can, by even shifting our focus away from other communities and just been alone and done what i sadly consider (by now) the mindless grind. Contesting sites have always elevated this mindlessness somewhat, which i have been most thankful for. In fact, the first incursions i did, i was contested by these "shiny" folks, and i thought "Well daaamn, that's cool, i want to do this, i want to be better, richer, faster". Of course this was in Vanguard sites back then, but i just transfer the same mentality to the larger sites/fleets, so please execute me.

Anyway, to sum up: The contest mechanic is fine as it is, blobbing is ok too, it's a sandbox, don't ask the Dev's to change it, change it your self. With the short time I've played this game, I've already learned that this is quite possible.


Regards space cap'n o/

Fly fast



P.S.: Dear charadass, please, keep doing it; "Nein nein nein!", you have no idea how you endlessly amuse us. Keep playing that propaganda war, it's hilarious, just have some consideration for the thread starters please, and address their issues as well. I just have a piece of friendly advice, since an ISN pilot pointed this out to me: "This guy, it's like, when he wakes up, he must think ISN, when he takes a leak, he must think ISN, when he goes to bed, he must think ISN..." Seriously, it's can't be healthy with that kind of obsession, take a step back man :) I wouldn't want anyone to become ill just for my own entertainment.