Science & Industry

we read the ones that explained why your issue is a non-issue. Insta-undocks derp derp etc. Also if you get hung up on station, you can always just re-dock and try again.

It takes time to discover that I've gotten stuck in the station's collision box.

And it's not CCP's intent that it should be that way, because it only happens for Freighters. I'm all for Freighters being slow and unagile. That's deliberate design. But getting stuck on collision boxes when trying to warp through stations never happens for smaller ships. It's not intended to happen. CCP just screwed up, and won't fix it.

Had that happen with a T1 industrial. Had that happen with a battlecruiser. It's not only freighters.

Remove some of the tedious, not the complexity, just the tedious. T1 production and manufacturing is just right, T2 meh a bit more tedious. T3 and PI forget about it!!

But if your looking for something more positive. Then adding something to mining/invention that gives you incentive to keep pulling the "one arm bandit". For instance warping into a belt and finding a random spawned Veld roid that is 10X or more trit. Or getting a random perk on an invention job that gives a ME30 PL10 to the invention result.

Or maybe fixing hauler rats so they drop something that isn't a joke for minerals.

OR what ^ said.

I would overhaul invention specifically to do with BPC runs, descriptors and final run outcomes.

Single run BPC's could be handycapped a little bit with chance.
Max run should be bonused

Decryptors should give bigger bonuses to max run BPC's but only for ships.
This would simply mean changing the formula a little bit, minimal time investment required from CCP for this kind of change.


1 Example of just how lopsided invention can be:

A single run Frigate BPC, with -6/-3 decryptor makes 9 runs.
A 29 run Frigate BPC with -6/-3 Decryptor makes 9 runs.
A MAX (30) run BPC with -6/-3 Decryptor makes 10 runs.
A MAX run frigate BPC with no decryptor makes 1 run.
A 1 one Frigate BPC with no decryptor makes 1 run.
a 29 run Frigate BPC with no Decryptor makes 1 run.

See where im getting at with this?

In game mining calculator to calculate payouts based on:

Regional order prices
Your specified %

For example: Mining op mines a total of 300,000,000 iks worth of ore based on regional calculations. In game tool would allow you to calculate member payouts.

Yes you can use an excel spreadsheet, but the point to is limit the amount of times you have to leave EVE online to do a task.

+1000 on being able to que multiple jobs at once.

Also granting null sec stations and outposts material bonuses to their manufacturing slots. Anyone who builds in null sec is taking more risk than a high sec manufacturer. Materials are harder to get, stations change hands, logistics is more difficult, etc. This is why most goods consumed in null sec are shipped in from high sec via jump freighter. If there were benefits to building in null sec, even if it was just for T2 products, far more players would do it.

Three main things are needed to draw indy manufacturing to null sec.

1- availability of manufacturing slots.

2- Availability of building materials.

3 - incentive to build there rather than in high sec.

To explain these ideas I will summarize some ideas that have been tossed around the features and ideas threads.

1- In the CSM minutes it was mentioned about possibly granting null sec stations unlimited slots. There was a comment that this would be a good start. I say keep it simple, all stations and outposts should have a small number of slots, with outpost improvements granting 10 times the slots they currently do. If needed more can be added later.

2- There have been discussions on how to address the demand for low end minerals in null sec. While I believe that simply making low end rocks more available will have little to no impact as most null sec miners will continue to mine the best ores they have available. I believe the solution is to increase the amounts of low end minerals found in high end ores. While leaving the high end mineral content unchanged. For example Arknor yields megacyte and traces of tritanium and pyrite. leave the megacyte as is but increase the amount of tritanium and pyrite by a factor of 10. All null sec ores can be treated like this, any that have traces of low ends could have them increased to a meaningful amount. Ores like spodumain and Gneiss which are currently near worthless could have there trace amounts of low ends mutipliyed by a factor of 30 to bring them inline with the other ores.
This would not only drastically increase the supply of low ends in null sec, but would increase the value of null sec ores in a way that could not be undone by market fluctuations. Put null sec ores back on top where they should be, and more miners will go to null for the increased profits.


3- By having null sec stations and outposts offer material bonuses that high sec station do not have, manufacturers will have incentive to move to null to increase there profits. Moving a manufacturing operation from high sec to null sec would be a significant increase in risk, the reward needs to balance that risk for them to want to go there.

What it all comes down to is one simple fact. You can not force a carebear of avid PVE'er to go into PVP space. They will quit rather than be forced into content they do not want. To get they to move you need to make them want to move. give them incentive, make it beneficial to them personally to do so. Make them want to move.

Sure many high secers will still prefer the safety of high sec, but if enough are attracted by the incentives we could really see null sec become the "Place to Be" thriving with activity rather than the desolate no-mans land it is now. If the incetives are good enough it will happen.

what people are forgetting with making the manefacturing tedius and click-consuming is that IF it is made easy, there will be an influx of people doing it, witch will drive the profit margins to you (the current producers) down even more, meaning you will have to produce even larger volumes or expand into other productions to keep up with the normal profits. this again will lead to MORE clicking needed xD

So even though removing clicking would be nice and releaving, i think that it would also cause havoc to alot of producers in the first 6-10 months. then ofc it will stabelise, but i belive the profit margin will be slimmer.


what i would like is to set where the "estimated value" prices are taken from, and if its median, sell or buy orders. lets say it updates once a day to reduce strain on servers. it would still be quite handy for alot of people. miners specificly more then most i would belive. And regardless of what everyone say, miners are what makes the heavy wheels of eve turn around. be it bots or players.

The issue is that EVE has SO MANY elements that you have to go out of game to get. EFT, Mining and Indy Calcs, Kill Mails (well, not now). Corp mining is a huge activity in EVE. There should be some kind of in game suport tool for it.

Wow is a perfect example. For the longest time, Wow didnt have a calender and it took players to Mod one in game before the Devs said "Hey, lets take this idea and make it better."

I'd like the ability to create and delete as many corp division as you like as it would make running a pos between a group of people much much easier.

EDIT: Subdivision would be cool to.