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need new method to make isk.

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Eden Bane
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2013-03-10 06:18:22 UTC
can fly everything sub cap gallente and can fly tech 2 minmatar up to cruisers.



curious what excatly can i do to get some isk that isnt too boring,

did the incursion thing awhile back but it seems its a dying breed now, did the 0.0 on board scan grind but that isnt a option currently for me.


i heard of exploration but have no idea what or how excatly to get into that.

then there is also, missions but those seem boring? and im not sure how to jump straight to 4s where the real money of missions are.



then theres faction Ware fare which i would love info on as well with exploration


basically,, if any one can inform me and update me on old and new ways?
Kodavor
Iz Doge Korp .
#2 - 2013-03-10 08:39:43 UTC
Tsukino Stareine
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2013-03-10 13:25:44 UTC
Kodavor wrote:
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=206859&find=unread


he said he didnt want to do incursions.

Exploration in null can be extremely profitable as most of the deadspace mods come out of those sites.

I mean you could even try a non-combat method to make money if you wanted a complete change..
stoicfaux
#4 - 2013-03-10 13:32:58 UTC
http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Making_ISK plus scamming, corp theft, trolling the forums, etc..



Pon Farr Memorial: once every 7 years, all the carebears in high-sec must PvP or they will be temp-banned.

Id hitthat
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2013-03-10 17:15:53 UTC
All PVE in eve is worst in industry. It's a (sometimes) necessary evil. You have the options of a) accepting this and grind away with an activity you don't hate as much as the others b) Get creative and think outside of spoon-fed pve activities. Scamming in various forms, providing services (ingame/out of game). c) Anything that applies to market/production d) buy plex'es.

As a gallente blaster char it will be hard for you to find a activity as profitable as running anomalies from any of the spoon-fed activities, including plex'ing.
Orlacc
#6 - 2013-03-10 17:23:25 UTC
Just send me your isk and I will send back double!!

"Measure Twice, Cut Once."

Lilan Kahn
The Littlest Hobos
The Whale Hunters Association
#7 - 2013-03-10 17:30:16 UTC
pvp for your isk
Eden Bane
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2013-03-10 17:39:16 UTC
wouldnt mind incursions but as far as i know there alot less profitable and inactive now? Vgs, that is



also, anything on faction Warfare?


and im curious if any gallente ship can solo c3s?
Tsukino Stareine
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2013-03-10 18:54:37 UTC
i dont know of any gallente ship capable of soloing c3s since they're almost all geared towards active armour tanking.

possibly a passive shield fit hyperion?

Faction warfare is supposed to pay out quite well with the LPs but I don't have any experience with that i'm afraid.
Taoist Dragon
Okata Syndicate
#10 - 2013-03-10 22:13:34 UTC
FW is easy isk if you want to plex grind. You can make billions from the LP gained in this. It is however boring as hell!

However if you are just wanting to support a pvp habit that you have gained (i know the feeling) then FW is probably the easiest way to do this tbh. A few mins plexing a session can see you easily stocked with faction frigs/cruisers to use in blapping the opponents (I don't have enemies in eve - it is just a game after all.) or you can quite easily provide enough isk to support a more expensive T2 pvp habit if you want.

Low sec explo can be quite good isk as a decent site can real in 500M+ isk and only takes about 30-40 mins to run in a good fit ship. But like all explo it is a random gamble that some times pays off big other you get squat.

That is the Way, the Tao.

Balance is everything.

Eden Bane
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2013-03-11 02:07:08 UTC
Taoist Dragon wrote:
FW is easy isk if you want to plex grind. You can make billions from the LP gained in this. It is however boring as hell!

However if you are just wanting to support a pvp habit that you have gained (i know the feeling) then FW is probably the easiest way to do this tbh. A few mins plexing a session can see you easily stocked with faction frigs/cruisers to use in blapping the opponents (I don't have enemies in eve - it is just a game after all.) or you can quite easily provide enough isk to support a more expensive T2 pvp habit if you want.

Low sec explo can be quite good isk as a decent site can real in 500M+ isk and only takes about 30-40 mins to run in a good fit ship. But like all explo it is a random gamble that some times pays off big other you get squat.



what would i need to do these scans

and what skills?

also what gallente ships could i use to run the low sec ones? think there called DEDS?



thinking of activating a alt to do just FW farming for my pvp and possible plexing needs,

what difficulty plex would i atleast i need to see profits, some people say novice and easy or w/e are good enough in frigs to make some isk
Taoist Dragon
Okata Syndicate
#12 - 2013-03-11 02:35:14 UTC
An alt in any militia can make lots of isk plex grinding minors/smalls.

As for scanning look at some of the posts here in Missions & Complexes for exploration there are some good guides there.

Gallente ships are fine for exploration. I used to run high sec site in an ishkur or enyo and I still run low sec site in my vexor or myrm...might even give the brutix a go since the rebalance.

That is the Way, the Tao.

Balance is everything.

Goldiiee
Bureau of Astronomical Anomalies
#13 - 2013-03-11 02:50:19 UTC
Eden Bane wrote:
wouldnt mind incursions but as far as i know there alot less profitable and inactive now? Vgs, that is



also, anything on faction Warfare?


and im curious if any gallente ship can solo c3s?

Your Information on Incursions might be a little outdated, I make about 500 mil in 4 hours (or less sometimes) every time I fleet up for an Incursion, The main roadblock to those numbers is skills, T2 Guns (Missle wont hunt) Ship,Best ship you can fly (Pirate Prefered) and the ability to play well with others (Not a easy thing to find in EVE).

Things that keep me up at night;  Why do we use a voice communication device to send telegraphs? Moore's Law should state, Once you have paid off the last PC upgrade you will need another.

Eden Bane
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2013-03-11 04:09:22 UTC
Goldiiee wrote:
Eden Bane wrote:
wouldnt mind incursions but as far as i know there alot less profitable and inactive now? Vgs, that is



also, anything on faction Warfare?


and im curious if any gallente ship can solo c3s?

Your Information on Incursions might be a little outdated, I make about 500 mil in 4 hours (or less sometimes) every time I fleet up for an Incursion, The main roadblock to those numbers is skills, T2 Guns (Missle wont hunt) Ship,Best ship you can fly (Pirate Prefered) and the ability to play well with others (Not a easy thing to find in EVE).



i got a alt who can fly a full tech 2d legion.

i can fly nice shinies, on here for gallente as well and pretty dam near a mach if i really wanted to.


what im most worried about incursions is, are they still inactive? can i log on and hope to find a fleet in a legion?

also are you talking about VGS ?

or would i be standing waiting is a long long line....



also towards exploration ill have a look and i guesse ill get my alt up runing the small plexes for the mean while,


thanks for the help guys
Goldiiee
Bureau of Astronomical Anomalies
#15 - 2013-03-11 04:35:01 UTC
In my expeirience T3's are not as reliable as BS's in creating the type and range of damage needed in a fleet. Not that they dont still get used.

Incursions are all about picking the right group to fly with, there are FC's in almost every time zone, getting in with a group that flies when your on will make getting into fleets easier.

And as far as what we run: I start with a VG fleet when we get to 20 members we move to Assaults, and at 35 to 40 we do HQ's. when the numbers fall we iether work our way back down to VG's or call it a day.

Things that keep me up at night;  Why do we use a voice communication device to send telegraphs? Moore's Law should state, Once you have paid off the last PC upgrade you will need another.

Holy Shizznit
Albireo Solem
Pandemic Horde
#16 - 2013-03-11 08:09:19 UTC
Tsukino Stareine wrote:
i dont know of any gallente ship capable of soloing c3s since they're almost all geared towards active armour tanking.

possibly a passive shield fit hyperion?

Faction warfare is supposed to pay out quite well with the LPs but I don't have any experience with that i'm afraid.



Shield Myrm can do it, neuts are kinda of a joke anyway in a C3.
Tsukino Stareine
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2013-03-11 11:22:33 UTC
not a fan of myrms in wormholes. I tried it before and it's just really hard to apply damage since they switch to drones very quickly so you have to constantly recall and you haven't got much for guns.
Makavelia
National Industries
#18 - 2013-03-11 12:38:47 UTC
I'm currently doing low sec exploration (mostly rad/mags), and depending on how much i do, maybe 300-500mil per month. I use some of the more easy bpc to produce T2 rigs, RNG per month. I also just started low sec 5 planet PI (waiting on 1 skill) and that ''should'' generate a further 500+mil per month minimum. It's realy low income, but it's more of a hobby than ''get rich''.



The combat sites 4-5/10 are too risky or few and far between you'll find them in a place where you can run them with-ought atracting attention. It may be where the real isk is at, but it's also where you are likely to die or warp out empty handed.

Eventualy the frustration of being chased from sites will make you take more and more risk. Theirs a player who does run a lot of those combat sites (no names mentioned ;p) but he told me last night he's lost about 1bil worth of ships in the last 10 days.



I'd only full time those low sec ded's if i had an alt who can jam. It will at-least mean you can afford more time to try and blitz for the loot if somebody starts to look for you.





Kodama Ikari
Thragon
#19 - 2013-03-11 14:04:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Kodama Ikari
lowsec exploration can be quite profitable, although you'll have days where you scan everything and can't catch a break (only good site is in a FW home system or soemthing). However you have easy access to empire and its easy to hit the pause button. You can ninja-rat or ninja-explore in nullsec, but its a pretty big commitment, requires a plan, and the patience to use WH's to get around. It also kind of works best with an alt. There's also WH daytripping, which i hear is still quite lucrative.

If you like missions you can try some of the epic arcs, getting high standings towards empire factions is always nice, the payouts rewards are mostly good, but its still doing missions, and you may have to grind some standing with a particular npc corp to start anyway. The pirate epic arc missions are supposedly doable with t2 frigates and take you out to null, so could be fun.

FW is definitely an option that lets you switch modes from money making to pvping relatively easily.

PI can be a good income source wherever you go, however you kind of need to be based in one area for at least a few weeks to make it worth it. The nice thing about PI though is that you can design your planets so managing them fits your playtime. It can take as much or as little effort as you want to put in. Spreadsheets do help here for tracking basic volume calculations and taxes. There's also a bit of a learning curve before you get into a rhythm that keeps them running with minimal management.
Eden Bane
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#20 - 2013-03-11 21:55:42 UTC
alright so my 2 options are either,

FACTION


or Wormholes it seems.

wormholes i cant do much because, of the fact most people say gallente cant solo pve.

Faction i could have a alt just run in frigs/cruisers and still make profit it seems.
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