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Roseline Penshar
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2013-03-03 06:12:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Roseline Penshar
i need a ship that's cheap, and the module is cheat too. and the ship can get in both lowsec and nullsec


what you guys would suggest to me? the suggestion is very appreciated

edit : for pvp
Narcotics Dealer
G U N D A M
#2 - 2013-03-03 09:49:55 UTC
hmm it really depends on what is cheap to u ?

but certainly if you want to engage in both null and low your going to want something fast, the cheapest thing would be the attack frigate range of ships (executioner, atron, condor, slasher) because they got a pretty amazing speed and stat buff

but then u got "cheap" destroyers and the new t1 cruiser line up etc

comets are really cheap for the hull atm, dual prop comet is a good general purpose ganker
Roseline Penshar
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2013-03-03 10:35:54 UTC
Narcotics Dealer wrote:
hmm it really depends on what is cheap to u ?

but certainly if you want to engage in both null and low your going to want something fast, the cheapest thing would be the attack frigate range of ships (executioner, atron, condor, slasher) because they got a pretty amazing speed and stat buff

but then u got "cheap" destroyers and the new t1 cruiser line up etc

comets are really cheap for the hull atm, dual prop comet is a good general purpose ganker



better attack frigs then combat frigs you suggest?
Stegas Tyrano
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2013-03-03 13:45:13 UTC
How much ISK are you willing to lose?

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Roseline Penshar
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2013-03-03 23:34:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Roseline Penshar
around 5m - 10m, i plan to use that type a lot so when i restock i'll make the same ship (with same module) 10-15.

edit : it can be anything if the ship is not lose that easily
Sjugar
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#6 - 2013-03-03 23:48:25 UTC
Roseline Penshar wrote:
around 5m - 10m, i plan to use that type a lot so when i restock i'll make the same ship (with same module) 10-15.

edit : it can be anything if the ship is not lose that easily


I used to advice the 20 rifter plan to people, had some great fun with it and nice comments from people who tried it and liked it, but I haven't really kept up and think it's 20 slasher plan nowadays.
Roseline Penshar
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2013-03-03 23:53:43 UTC
Sjugar wrote:
Roseline Penshar wrote:
around 5m - 10m, i plan to use that type a lot so when i restock i'll make the same ship (with same module) 10-15.

edit : it can be anything if the ship is not lose that easily


I used to advice the 20 rifter plan to people, had some great fun with it and nice comments from people who tried it and liked it, but I haven't really kept up and think it's 20 slasher plan nowadays.

you mean using rifter and when it's blow up have 19 more in ship bay? slasher too fragile everyone can OHKO it
Narcotics Dealer
G U N D A M
#8 - 2013-03-04 02:02:31 UTC
ok yeah just use whatever frigates suits your taste then even the combat frigates are great, find a optimal and versatile fit and buy heaps of them and just go nuts lol
Roseline Penshar
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2013-03-04 10:27:52 UTC
lol i like your style narcotics, and can you suggest a cheap yet effective fitting? for your best frigate in mind
Sjugar
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#10 - 2013-03-05 01:12:52 UTC
Roseline Penshar wrote:
Sjugar wrote:
Roseline Penshar wrote:
around 5m - 10m, i plan to use that type a lot so when i restock i'll make the same ship (with same module) 10-15.

edit : it can be anything if the ship is not lose that easily


I used to advice the 20 rifter plan to people, had some great fun with it and nice comments from people who tried it and liked it, but I haven't really kept up and think it's 20 slasher plan nowadays.

you mean using rifter and when it's blow up have 19 more in ship bay? slasher too fragile everyone can OHKO it


What I mean is you take 20 of your favorite ship and have them ready and fitted to go in your favorite station where your medical clone is. Then you go out and try find pvp till all of your 20 ships are gone.
Roseline Penshar
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#11 - 2013-03-05 08:10:50 UTC
oh 20....after that i advance to next list on my favourite ship?

my favourite ship are:
1. rifter
2. slasher
3. thrasher (damn this one expensive compare to the other 2)
Garviel Tarrant
Beyond Divinity Inc
Shadow Cartel
#12 - 2013-03-05 11:25:12 UTC
Roseline Penshar wrote:
oh 20....after that i advance to next list on my favourite ship?

my favourite ship are:
1. rifter
2. slasher
3. thrasher (damn this one expensive compare to the other 2)


I'd recommend using 2. and 3. since 1. is bad.

BYDI recruitment closed-ish

Roseline Penshar
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#13 - 2013-03-08 09:09:02 UTC
what fit would you suggest for slasher and thrasher? T1 fit and a cheap one too
Voltage MetalHead
Doomheim
#14 - 2013-03-08 19:52:20 UTC
I think you'll see me fitting a few of these up.

http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=16332455

the A/C Thrasher is a dps machine even with T1 guns but you have to pick your fights and your MWD will be scrammed a lot. It's not the most ideal ship for some scenarios but It is my anti-Incursis weapon of choice. Can take Merlins as well. Goes head to head with other Destroyers. Long range ships are an issue but the MWD can help you burn in.

If your budget allows I would go for a Gyro II for more DPS and a Damage Control II for more tank. Use Faction Ammo as well because the T1 guns don't have the DPS so faction ammo gives you a little more punch.

The Merlin is a good ship too, standards Blaster Fit with a Shield Buffer, Web, Scram, A/B, etc.

I haven't given up on the rifter but it is getting owned even by Slashers if you can't get a web on them in time and if it's shield buffed you can't fit the web anyway.

Taoist Dragon
Okata Syndicate
#15 - 2013-03-08 20:14:12 UTC
Don't listen to Garviel he has a hate thing going on against rifters now. Lol

But yeah pick a ship you like and but a stack of them. with a load of fittings. Fit them up and go out and fight in them. Tweak your fits to what works for you and analyse what you did to win/lose/escape and modify your fit/syle of flying to increase the effectiveness.

once you have lost those inital ships pick another or if you really love that one buy another stack.

That is the Way, the Tao.

Balance is everything.
Alaric Faelen
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#16 - 2013-03-09 00:52:06 UTC
Frigs/Destroyers. Anything with Small weapons. These are very fast to train for T2 modules, can be fitted by players with less than perfect skills, yet cheap enough to be replaced wholesale after grinding some minor PvE to cover costs. Additionally, the AF was buffed into awesomesauce already, and T1 frigs just got a facelift.

Anything much beyond destroyer will run into month long training times to see T2, both in hulls and weapon systems. A pilot is more focused and dedicated to a role or niche when moving into cruisers and larger. For the player new to PvP, I suggest small ships because they're cheap, but also because you can train several different things and have more variety.

You can check out brawling, kiting, interceptor work (even in a T1), scouting, logi, EWAR...all in ships that cost peanuts to replace. Once you get a taste for specific roles, you will have a better idea where to invest that month of training for the next hull size. Did RR catch your fancy or did losing out on KM's hurt? Find out in frigs before looking at a month of training time for the same role in a cruiser.
Narcotics Dealer
G U N D A M
#17 - 2013-03-09 02:45:55 UTC
i see u want exact fits, its just a bit hard to recommend mainly because of skills/fitting and the cost of preferred modules

slasher is commonly afterburner fit with web,scram and td where it can apply its damage with barrage while the enemy cant close range or apply damage within scram range but they are versatile u can fit them a few ways

if u want to duel 1v1 vs other frigs youll mostly definately need something with range control and damage projection in the current enviroment

if u just want to straight up brawl anything with a nice mix of decent buffer and/or repping and decent dmg out put is best

maybe u just want to hunt down and gank victims ? then its best just to fly a gank frigate, anything with blasters only moderate defenses this way u can kill quickly (200dps+ at the very least) in this way you can fly aggressively and rely on ur target making mistakes although you'll always be weak to someone who is prepared
thrasher would be ur best access to gank mode seeing u like it anyways but are they cheap ? maybe not for u

Roseline Penshar
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#18 - 2013-03-09 04:58:03 UTC
i can afford thrasher, i'll see if i can get a decent thrasher and learn my way for it. and my playing style is like those is reckless enough to charge to anything, so yes a brawl ship is my choice