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Who still uses Windows XP?
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Dheeradj Nurgle
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#41 - 2013-03-08 20:55:26 UTC
Frostys Virpio wrote:

And disabling UAC is hard...



This is the worst advise you can give people. If UAC is bothering you you'd be better off doing something usefull, like a Virus Scan, or Check the settings to see why it's going apeshit on you.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#42 - 2013-03-08 22:17:12 UTC
Dheeradj Nurgle wrote:
Frostys Virpio wrote:

And disabling UAC is hard...

This is the worst advise you can give people. If UAC is bothering you you'd be better off doing something usefull, like a Virus Scan, or Check the settings to see why it's going apeshit on you.

^^ This.

If UAC is bothering you, something is wrong — most likely, it's just the software you're trying to run being a piece of incompetenly-coded dung, but it could also be broken and in need of some fixing. There is no reason for any normal software to ever trigger UAC unless you're trying to do something to the system that you should be careful about doing (in which case UAC being triggered is a good thing).

The only problem with UAC is bad programmers who still believe that living in an all-root (that's all-administrator for you silly people) environment is a good thing and something that can always be assumed and who are in dire need of updating their coding principles.
Tedrizze
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#43 - 2013-03-08 22:29:45 UTC
How about forcing people to upgrade to Win 7 or Vista?

u know... ADAPT...ehehehehe
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
#44 - 2013-03-08 22:37:21 UTC
Noriko Mai wrote:
Micheal Dietrich wrote:
Good lord, next thing the lot of you will be telling us is that you still run on a modem and you use Office 2000.

Office 2000?? pfft.. VIM with latex plugin Cool And a modem should be more than enough for EVE.


My last job I often found myself using vi on an old AIX system which indeed does still use modems to this date.
An' then Chicken@little.com, he come scramblin outta the    Terminal room screaming "The system's crashing! The system's    crashing!" -Uncle RAMus, 'Tales for Cyberpsychotic Children'
Kaahles
Jion Keanturi
#45 - 2013-03-08 22:47:36 UTC
people complaining about UAC are usually the same people that don't like linux because you have to manually enter your su password every time you want to change some crucial system settings or (un)install software. That kind of person should not use a computer anyway :o
Mark Munoz
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#46 - 2013-03-08 23:19:45 UTC
Lets face it CCP isn't dragging their feet because such a large base uses XP still. If they released a new version tomorrow that required 7 or higher 99.5% of the user base would be taking their happy asses to Best Buy to pickup an OS upgrade. There is a VERY small percentage of users that use XP still because they HAVE to. If they think they have to they just haven't done enough current research either. I am not saying there aren't exceptions obviously but by and large that is fact.

Chances are said people that REQUIRE to be on XP also have newer gaming system anyway. People don't upgrade because they aren't forced to. The same damn reason miners don't tank. When something happens though and CODE. ***** on their day you can be damn sure they will come out with DCU's instead of MLU's.
Robus Muvila
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#47 - 2013-03-08 23:34:21 UTC
Without any opinion on the rest of the thread., have an interesting factoid.

In terms of release gaps.

Windows XP is to Windows 7

As Windows XP is to Windows 3.1

Shocked

TMC Senior Developer http://themittani.com - Because EvE has needed a proper news site for ages
Shamus O'Reilly
Candy Cabal
#48 - 2013-03-08 23:40:07 UTC
Got a question. Does windows 7 have the ability to be a tech geek like xp does? I love the control and complexity of XP. Saw vista and hated it. worried 7 and 8 are even more simplistic

"I swear there are more people complaining over "nullsecers complaining" then actual nullsec people complaining."
Azami Nevinyrall
172.0.0.1
#49 - 2013-03-08 23:48:26 UTC
My *really* old laptop that lives in the freezer that runs SETI@home stuff uses it...

...
Velarra
#50 - 2013-03-08 23:56:37 UTC
Shamus O'Reilly wrote:
Got a question. Does windows 7 have the ability to be a tech geek like xp does? I love the control and complexity of XP. Saw vista and hated it. worried 7 and 8 are even more simplistic


If you enjoyed XP, you'll appreciate Win7.
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
Vote Steve Ronuken for CSM
#51 - 2013-03-09 00:06:56 UTC
To explain what UAC does, for the layman:


Running stuff as an Adminstrator is a bad idea, unless it /needs/ be run as an admin. If it's compromised in some fashion, it could seriously screw up your computer.

UAC takes your admin account and creates another one without Admin Privileges. You run most of your software using this account. So when something needs admin privs, it has to ask for them, rather than just messing with stuff without your permission.

For most people, you shouldn't see a UAC prompt, for the vast majority of the time. If you are, your software is doing something it probably doesn't need to, and should probably be updated to a later version, or replaced with something decent.


You pay for significantly better security, with a little infrequent annoyance.

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Shaotuk
Sin City Enterprises
#52 - 2013-03-09 01:52:09 UTC
As long as the tears from 7/8 users continue to flow, I will continue to use XP...
Setaceous
Nexus Prima
#53 - 2013-03-09 02:28:46 UTC
Shamus O'Reilly wrote:
Got a question. Does windows 7 have the ability to be a tech geek like xp does? I love the control and complexity of XP. Saw vista and hated it. worried 7 and 8 are even more simplistic

The front end is simplistic. The underlying OS has a phenomenal number of settings and management software that the average user will never see.

As a side note, XP support was only extended because a huge number of commercial customers still use it (Hospitals, Defence, Government Departments, Schools, Universities). It really had nothing to do with the home user. Hell, we're still being asked by our HR department where I work to migrate ancient legacy DOS based software into our brand new SAP HRMS platform Sad
Bienator II
madmen of the skies
#54 - 2013-03-09 02:55:32 UTC
inb4 win7 for plex

how to fix eve: 1) remove ECM 2) rename dampeners to ECM 3) add new anti-drone ewar for caldari 4) give offgrid boosters ongrid combat value
Vicata Heth
Sensible People
Sigma Grindset
#55 - 2013-03-09 02:57:04 UTC
Shaotuk wrote:
As long as the tears from 7/8 users continue to flow, I will continue to use XP...


You're actually causing tears for anyone who wants to develop tools for eve using the .net framework 4.5. So you're hurting yourself essentially.
Commissar Kate
Kesukka
#56 - 2013-03-09 03:03:31 UTC
pffft I still use my Amiga and I refuse to upgrade.

-k8

My Fanclub
LoanWolf Tivianne
Ace's And 8's
#57 - 2013-03-09 03:57:31 UTC
haha i love how people who think they know stuff post

xp baby all the way

as for user access control you do know you can turn that off right
probably not or you wouldn't be bitching about it

yea my spelling sucks so do you go back to work school teacher your not wanted here
Super spikinator
Hegemonous Conscripts
#58 - 2013-03-09 04:27:00 UTC
how nostalgic this thread is. There was threads similar back when eve supported 95 and big bad ccp made people upgrade to 2000.
Jensaro Koraka
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#59 - 2013-03-09 09:44:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Jensaro Koraka
Destination SkillQueue wrote:
Windows 7/XP user here. Could update to 7 on all comps, but no reason to do it, so I don't.

The fact that you're preventing everyone from having tessellation is a pretty big reason, as is not having access to updates for your OS and various other pieces of software like browsers, etc.

LoanWolf Tivianne wrote:
xp baby all the way

Why doesn't that surprise me? Just go remove yourself from the gene pool already. Half the first page of GD is locked threads by you. You contribute nothing to the forum, except maybe annoyance.

"Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." -H.L. Mencken
Mag's
Azn Empire
#60 - 2013-03-09 09:52:33 UTC
I managed to get win7 early at a great price, so all my comps on on that. (Just looked at the cost now, good god it's expensive)

Although I do have a couple of XP licences and disks.

Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the Lions will ignore you in the Savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.