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Question for high-SP vets.
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D.I.L.L.I.G.A.F. S.A.S
Affirmative.
#21 - 2013-03-07 01:36:53 UTC
50M SP and done? Maybe, depends on what you are specialising in.

I'm at about 82M SP(I took a 6month break from eve at one point, hence the low SP) and I still don't classify myself as done.

The list of ships that cannot fly is getting smaller and smaller. My First long term goal in eve is about to be met, be able to fly EVERY Sub Capital Ship. After that will be to be able to use every T2 Weapon, that is a little further off, atm, I'm using T2 on my Primary Race and Drones, have been for a while. And then I have all the industrial and exploration skills, I still have a long way to go, it appears to be a never ending quest.
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#22 - 2013-03-07 11:27:01 UTC
Dessau wrote:
Did you ever stop playing Skill Queue Online?

In about 270 days, this character will be 'done' training, meaning that all skills pertaining to my interests in EVE will be at trained to V. Due to some periods of sub lapse, this will give me roughly 50M SP on a 3 year character. I don't consider 50M to be high-SP, but it's all I will need, apparently.

The only thing I can think to do at that point is use an empty slot to raise an alt for the Bazaar, but it feels odd that my main will not be training anything.

Anyone else reach this point and care to comment?


Yeah I stopped training Malc almost 2 years ago. I did put some SP into the new sensor strength and Micro Jump Drive skills, but for most of the last 2 years I have been training up another character on this account. She's looking pretty nice - she passed 60M SP a few weeks ago. She can fly all the T2 medium ships, but she has trading, industry and research skills that are useful in an empire alt, but not so much in 0.0. I also have a 900k SP cyno alt who probably won't get any training any time soon.

More recently I have done the same on my second account; my "second main" has stopped skilling, and I have a nice hi-sec ISK making Tengu alt with 31M SP. When he has all the skills he needs (He's skilling up for his CNR to complement the Tengu), I'll stop training him and start skilling a 3rd, probably a small ship focused specialist (T1 and T2 Frigates, Dessies) that I'll maybe put into FW.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Carniflex
StarHunt
Mordus Angels
#23 - 2013-03-07 14:14:01 UTC
Well, at somewhere at approx 45 - 50 mil SP you will have the essentials done. At that point there is nothing wrong in doing couple of extra auxiliary alts. A NPC corp freighter alt for wartime, for example, couple chars with okish PI skills for running reactinos near Jita, A inventor/T2 production alts or Jita trade alt, etc. In any combination you like.

Now obviously there is still stuff to train at 150 mil SP and above, but lets face it, essentials have been there. At approx 50 mil SP you no longer hit the issue of "omg new fleet doctrine and I have to train 3 months for it". Sure, it would be nice to push all T2 guns to 5, all turret and missile support skills to 5, etc etc and thats what people do up to 150 mil and bejond.

Here, sanity... niiiice sanity, come to daddy... okay, that's a good sanity... THWONK! GOT the bastard.
Cute E
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#24 - 2013-03-07 16:37:02 UTC
My main sits around 60m SP give or take and I don't consider it even halfway there. I'd rather pay for secondary accounts and train up alts than gimp it. I'm actually against over-speccing, as it's limiting. Trade alts, copy/invention alts, cyno alts and the like don't fall in this category, of course.

It's mostly about being nerf-proof rather than saying you actually fly all those ships. The way CCP goes around ships and erm balances them, you never know when your beloved isk maker (for instance Malcanis' Tengu, lol) goes from hero to zero.

Leadership skills are quite good to have beyond a certain point, especially since links will be moved on-grid, I suspect there's going to be quite a demand for skilled people to fly as boosters in battle (and I'm not talking about zero tank 6 link T3s here, but decent-fit Command Ships).

Ymmv, but there's a saying - "never sell your main". I'd contribute to that "and never stop training it".
Salpad
Carebears with Attitude
#25 - 2013-03-08 17:23:14 UTC
Dessau wrote:
Did you ever stop playing Skill Queue Online?

In about 270 days, this character will be 'done' training, meaning that all skills pertaining to my interests in EVE will be at trained to V. Due to some periods of sub lapse, this will give me roughly 50M SP on a 3 year character. I don't consider 50M to be high-SP, but it's all I will need, apparently.

The only thing I can think to do at that point is use an empty slot to raise an alt for the Bazaar, but it feels odd that my main will not be training anything.

Anyone else reach this point and care to comment?


I'm a bit over 100M SP, after having played for 6 years now (including long periods of only logging on to train), and even without having trained for capital ships, nor done much cross-training into non-Caldari ships (although I'm starting to do that now), I still feel like there's a bunch of skillz that I'd like to train.

It's not an urgent, burning need. Back in late 2008, my ISP ****** up big time, and I was offline for 11 days. There was no skill queue back then, and I was almost foaming at the mouth for being unable to connect, and because I was missing out on a week and a half of training opportunity.

Now I've got most skillz to 5. Certainly all the important ones. I have a backup 3G connection now, that I can use when my ADSL malfunctions, but amusingly I'm much less upset about missing out on a half day of training opportunity here, or two days there.

(Note that if I had gone more efficient with learning skillz, and gotten big implants sooner, and if I had been proactive about optimal remaps, it's possible to get quite a bit more than 100M SP in 6 years. Not a lot, but quite a bit.)
Mag's
Azn Empire
#26 - 2013-03-10 12:59:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Mag's
Inkarr Hashur wrote:
Mag's wrote:
I have 169 mil and still no where near done with combat related skills.

Not sure how you can be done at 50 tbh. You must have very limited needs.


I'd be very curious to see your skill sheets. Would you be ok posting them?
NP, they are on Eveboard. Linkage Me. Linkage Drac.

Edit: Although reading on in the thread, noticed you had links given already. Oops

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