EVE New Citizens Q&A

I apologise from everyone, I wasn't sure where to post whine posts. I would like to feed some trolls with my tears.

I am a n00b, I did a lvl 1 sec mission a couple of days ago, and realised that I wasn't going to be able to do it in my punisher. It was a normal mission, but I wanted to progress further, so I decided to abandon the mission and move on. I've lost -0,4% standing which resulted in a corp standing change of -0.4 or so. No big deal.

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Today I had the same thing with a storyline mission, I was in my coercer, I accepted a lvl 3 security storyline mission, and I got my ass kicked by the rats. I thought it would be a wise thing to abandon the mission so I could get other storyline missions along the way. I thought a loss of -0.4 isn't so bad.

I got a standing change penalty of -19,9% which resulted in a corp standing change of -3.0.

My question is why on earth is this "feature" in the game at all...

It doesn't make any sense, I don't understand it, it does frustrate me, it is idiotic, it is moronic.

Please after the trolls ate/drank all my tears, for the love of God, please explain somebody to me, why on earth this penalty is so big!

I mean I've learned my lesson, but basically I have to start over with standings grinding with that corp. From the beginning. It just doesn't make any fricking sense!

You do realise you can read about storyline offer before even talking to agent... Same way you can read any missiong offers in your journal. That way you have plenty of time to readmission reports, etc... about it. Get proper ship and not get blown up.

Standing penalties for abandoning accepted mission is realistic feature. You think your boss at work is happy if you suddently tell him to showel it and do this crap job himself?

Also in play here is how those changes are calculated. Negative adjustments are calculated from reference -10.0, so if you have positive standing, penalty results bigger absolute change then if your all ready in negative side...

This game is not sayd to be most hars and cold game for nothing. It is, in exchange we have limitless choices to make. Unlike some other MMO´s i know and have played.

I have worked for "months" for the same company as a courier, now suddenly they tell me to go and fight on the frontline and kick some ass, now after my ships gets destroyed and I decide to abandon the mission/assignment, I get fired as a courier and have to start all over again?

No Maam. No sense at all.

I should make some popcorn for the trolls. :)

You are right that it was lack of information. Unfortunately they don't cover everything in the tutorials.

If you abandon missions from an agent more often than every 4 hours, you LOSE what you would have gained (it gets subtracted, and the bonus is based on how close you are to +10 standings, and the penalty based on how close you are to -10, with diminishing returns).

Now, the storyline agent is different than the regular agent you do the normal 16 missions for, so abandoning missions from the storyline agent shouldn't be on the same 4 hour counter as the regular missions. You must have done missions very fast, to get 2 storyline in a row within 4 hours; it's doable but very rare.

Just keep the 4 hour timer in mind.

EDIT: Also, you'll get into situations where you learn the hard way a lot in this game. We all do. They've improved the tutorials a bit, but this game's always been known for having a cliff with a bulldozer on top pushing people off for a "learning curve."

Let's get one thing straight. You accepted the mission. You signed a contract. You took a responsibility. Only then you decided to not go through with it.

If you simply declined the mission in the first place, rather than making a commitment but then failing and/or refusing to go through with it, there wouldn't be any problem. The penalty was simply proportionate to the stakes involved/potential reward.

If you can't handle it, don't accept it. If you are unsure whether you can, research it first.

Do I really have to talk to you like a child and give you a lesson in responsibility? Because that is basically what you are asking for here.

You could... you know, search for information before hand.
Ignorance may not be stupidity, but it's not an excuse either.

Sounds like your the troll.. Not the one troll'd

There is a name of the mission you are on..

For instance.. I am on the quest "Encounter at Station 464"

now..

I can go to google and search "Encounter at Station 464"

and guess what comes up first result?

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Encounter+at+Station+464

First result.. It tells exactly what will come at me, and it even gives a little tip!

WOW ITS MAGIC!!


nope.. just google..

Sorry but I edit'd the post above insted of creating a new post..

There is a name of the mission you are on..

For instance.. I am on the quest "Encounter at Station 464"

now..

I can go to google and search "Encounter at Station 464"

and guess what comes up first result?

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Encounter+at+Station+464

First result.. It tells exactly what will come at me, and it even gives a little tip!

WOW ITS MAGIC!!


nope.. just google..

And I think your other issue can be solved with a little bit of math. I don`t know your exact situation, seems you did not state which quest it was other then a lvl 3 sec mission.


But as others have said, once you accepted the contract, you are responsible.. end of story.. If you don`t like the penalty, make sure you research your quest, and make sure you are capable of finishing it.

Even within the 12 hrs that I have played, and watched youtube vids, forums, and in game noob chat, I got the idea that cancelling missions is a last resort thing to avoid if at all possible.

But this is a stats based game. Im sure there are stats for every single ship, weapon, and item in the game somewhere online.

Its just a balancing act. Do you spend the time searching down these stats, and crunching the numbers? or take the odd loss here and there, and press on?

Done the same thing as OP did.
Then read on internetz that NEVER, EVER abandone missions from a storyline agent. Decline them before hand if you think you'll fail. OPs reasoning was wrong to start with so he was double punished unfortunately.