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DragonBlue1
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#1 - 2013-03-06 22:00:23 UTC
hey guys i`m looking for a good solo ship for c4 wormholes ... what do u guys suggest ? i was thinking tengu ? any advice is welcomed
chris elliot
Treasury Department
Plug N Play
#2 - 2013-03-06 22:12:27 UTC
Use the search function. Someone asked this last week and got some good responses.
Jack Miton
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#3 - 2013-03-06 22:17:24 UTC
Use a Phoenix for best results.

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DragonBlue1
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#4 - 2013-03-06 22:22:56 UTC
.... search function is extremely bugged :P .... if u want to help then go ahead if not then dont post thank you
Flakey Foont
#5 - 2013-03-06 22:26:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Flakey Foont
Sorry misread OP.
Dato Koppla
Spaghetti Militia
#6 - 2013-03-07 04:55:34 UTC
RR Tengus and RR BS both work well and are the most popular choices. You can solo them in a Tengu but it's not really worth it.
Deacon Abox
Black Eagle5
#7 - 2013-03-07 22:24:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Deacon Abox
Dato Koppla wrote:
RR Tengus and RR BS both work well and are the most popular choices. You can solo them in a Tengu but it's not really worth it.

But HMs are useless now right? That's what people are saying in another thread here.

So instead people should use rr Legions right? Because who cares about neuting and other ewar when you're firing lazors right. It's not like a whole major segment of eve pve selectively favors or disfavors certain weapons systems. That would be just stupid.Straight

CCP, there are off buttons for ship explosions, missile effects, turret effects, etc. "Immersion" does not seem to be harmed by those. So, [u]please[/u] give us a persisting off button for the jump gate and autoscan visuals.

Inkarr Hashur
Skyline Federation
#8 - 2013-03-07 22:29:10 UTC
Deacon Abox wrote:
Dato Koppla wrote:
RR Tengus and RR BS both work well and are the most popular choices. You can solo them in a Tengu but it's not really worth it.

But HMs are useless now right? That's what people are saying in another thread here.

So instead people should use rr Legions right? Because who cares about neuting and other ewar when you're firing lazors right. It's not like a whole major segment of eve pve selectively favors or disfavors certain weapons systems. That would be just stupid.Straight


I can't actually tell who you're aiming your sarcasm at. It seems to be everywhere.
Dato Koppla
Spaghetti Militia
#9 - 2013-03-07 22:46:26 UTC
Inkarr Hashur wrote:
Deacon Abox wrote:
Dato Koppla wrote:
RR Tengus and RR BS both work well and are the most popular choices. You can solo them in a Tengu but it's not really worth it.

But HMs are useless now right? That's what people are saying in another thread here.

So instead people should use rr Legions right? Because who cares about neuting and other ewar when you're firing lazors right. It's not like a whole major segment of eve pve selectively favors or disfavors certain weapons systems. That would be just stupid.Straight


I can't actually tell who you're aiming your sarcasm at. It seems to be everywhere.


Yeah I don't really get what you're getting at either, in any case, HMs are far from useless and the people complaining don't know any better, Drakes are still extremely good PvE BCs, being the only BC capable of sporting a 700dps tank and 450dps out to 45km allowing it to solo C3s (most t2 fit BS will struggle to reach those numbers) and Tengus are still very good at WH PvE, sure they took a hit to efficiency, but previously they were in a world of their own, now I'd say they're still the best but other options come close.

About your comment on Tengu vs Legion, I think you can do them in a Legion RR gang, however you'll be much more limited in terms of range and having to slowboat around in a spidertank formation is really going to suck.
Deacon Abox
Black Eagle5
#10 - 2013-03-07 23:54:01 UTC
Dato Koppla wrote:
Yeah I don't really get what you're getting at either, in any case, HMs are far from useless and the people complaining don't know any better, Drakes are still extremely good PvE BCs, being the only BC capable of sporting a 700dps tank and 450dps out to 45km allowing it to solo C3s (most t2 fit BS will struggle to reach those numbers) and Tengus are still very good at WH PvE, sure they took a hit to efficiency, but previously they were in a world of their own, now I'd say they're still the best but other options come close.

About your comment on Tengu vs Legion, I think you can do them in a Legion RR gang, however you'll be much more limited in terms of range and having to slowboat around in a spidertank formation is really going to suck.

I'm not slamming you. I'm slamming the devs. Whoever created wormhole space simply made it favor certain tanks and weapons that were already heavily favored in eve pve.

As for Legions, precisely. Why should they be able to get good range and dps at range? Beams? Wtf are those? It's all about pulse lasers and scorch. We really can't give amarr ships sufficient grid to fit those things. And let's forget about cap for them as well. Espcially since pve neuts act just like player neuts. They would never be so strong as to cap out laser boats with beams. Etc.

CCP, there are off buttons for ship explosions, missile effects, turret effects, etc. "Immersion" does not seem to be harmed by those. So, [u]please[/u] give us a persisting off button for the jump gate and autoscan visuals.

Prinzessin Leia
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#11 - 2013-03-08 07:44:14 UTC
Dato Koppla wrote:
RR Tengus and RR BS both work well and are the most popular choices. You can solo them in a Tengu but it's not really worth it.



RR-Tengus are easy mode for C4. We use them all time and they are dirt cheap as you only
have to fit T2 mods.


RR-BS I only found Dominix that could work... All other BS i dont get a compareable fitting to Tengus/Dominix.
chris elliot
Treasury Department
Plug N Play
#12 - 2013-03-10 15:26:53 UTC
Deacon Abox wrote:
Dato Koppla wrote:
Yeah I don't really get what you're getting at either, in any case, HMs are far from useless and the people complaining don't know any better, Drakes are still extremely good PvE BCs, being the only BC capable of sporting a 700dps tank and 450dps out to 45km allowing it to solo C3s (most t2 fit BS will struggle to reach those numbers) and Tengus are still very good at WH PvE, sure they took a hit to efficiency, but previously they were in a world of their own, now I'd say they're still the best but other options come close.

About your comment on Tengu vs Legion, I think you can do them in a Legion RR gang, however you'll be much more limited in terms of range and having to slowboat around in a spidertank formation is really going to suck.

I'm not slamming you. I'm slamming the devs. Whoever created wormhole space simply made it favor certain tanks and weapons that were already heavily favored in eve pve.

As for Legions, precisely. Why should they be able to get good range and dps at range? Beams? Wtf are those? It's all about pulse lasers and scorch. We really can't give amarr ships sufficient grid to fit those things. And let's forget about cap for them as well. Espcially since pve neuts act just like player neuts. They would never be so strong as to cap out laser boats with beams. Etc.



Not sure if stupid or just bored and lazy so they need something to complain about. You can do wh pve in just about anything. Missiles and pve always go together favorably. Else grab a pair of logistics and load up on deeps and crank through it.

Removing your head from your anus would help slightly in understanding that t3's are inherantly niche ships. But not as niche as you are pidgeon-holeing them to be. And in most cases are not even needed for pve anyway.
Tsukino Stareine
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2013-03-10 16:05:01 UTC
Dato Koppla wrote:
Inkarr Hashur wrote:
Deacon Abox wrote:
Dato Koppla wrote:
RR Tengus and RR BS both work well and are the most popular choices. You can solo them in a Tengu but it's not really worth it.

But HMs are useless now right? That's what people are saying in another thread here.

So instead people should use rr Legions right? Because who cares about neuting and other ewar when you're firing lazors right. It's not like a whole major segment of eve pve selectively favors or disfavors certain weapons systems. That would be just stupid.Straight


I can't actually tell who you're aiming your sarcasm at. It seems to be everywhere.


Yeah I don't really get what you're getting at either, in any case, HMs are far from useless and the people complaining don't know any better, Drakes are still extremely good PvE BCs, being the only BC capable of sporting a 700dps tank and 450dps out to 45km allowing it to solo C3s (most t2 fit BS will struggle to reach those numbers) and Tengus are still very good at WH PvE, sure they took a hit to efficiency, but previously they were in a world of their own, now I'd say they're still the best but other options come close.

About your comment on Tengu vs Legion, I think you can do them in a Legion RR gang, however you'll be much more limited in terms of range and having to slowboat around in a spidertank formation is really going to suck.


i would like to see this fit for 700 dps omni tank while still doing 450 dps

Art of Explosions
Alfas Omegas
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2013-03-10 16:08:30 UTC
Sorry to the Op for off topic question but what RR-BattleShip is?
Janeway84
Insane's Asylum
#15 - 2013-03-10 17:56:09 UTC
Alfas Omegas wrote:
Sorry to the Op for off topic question but what RR-BattleShip is?


Remote repair , like in remote armor repair or shield transporter ect.
Alfas Omegas
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2013-03-10 18:35:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Alfas Omegas
ahh..thx so i guess for solo reasons is repairing your sentries or other drones?
Dato Koppla
Spaghetti Militia
#17 - 2013-03-10 23:42:42 UTC
Tsukino Stareine wrote:
Dato Koppla wrote:
Inkarr Hashur wrote:
Deacon Abox wrote:
Dato Koppla wrote:
RR Tengus and RR BS both work well and are the most popular choices. You can solo them in a Tengu but it's not really worth it.

But HMs are useless now right? That's what people are saying in another thread here.

So instead people should use rr Legions right? Because who cares about neuting and other ewar when you're firing lazors right. It's not like a whole major segment of eve pve selectively favors or disfavors certain weapons systems. That would be just stupid.Straight


I can't actually tell who you're aiming your sarcasm at. It seems to be everywhere.


Yeah I don't really get what you're getting at either, in any case, HMs are far from useless and the people complaining don't know any better, Drakes are still extremely good PvE BCs, being the only BC capable of sporting a 700dps tank and 450dps out to 45km allowing it to solo C3s (most t2 fit BS will struggle to reach those numbers) and Tengus are still very good at WH PvE, sure they took a hit to efficiency, but previously they were in a world of their own, now I'd say they're still the best but other options come close.

About your comment on Tengu vs Legion, I think you can do them in a Legion RR gang, however you'll be much more limited in terms of range and having to slowboat around in a spidertank formation is really going to suck.


i would like to see this fit for 700 dps omni tank while still doing 450 dps


https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2686059#post2686059

435 dps out to 44km with 727 dps omnitank, cap stable too. Try Eft up a bs with the same stats and you'll realize just how good the drake is.
Tsukino Stareine
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#18 - 2013-03-11 01:06:53 UTC
furies will only do full damage on battleship sleepers you'll be doing just over half your dps on cruiser sleepers and almost nothing on frigates.

Art of Explosions
Dato Koppla
Spaghetti Militia
#19 - 2013-03-11 04:47:33 UTC
Yeah furies should only be used on BS and you'll be forced to use t1 or faction on cruiser and below but it's still very doable and the same goes for BS weapons so the drake can still give some BS a run for their money. The drake isn't as good as it was but still a very good ship and easily one of the best battle cruisers .