EVE General Discussion

CCP please just boost things so that we have Tech 1, 2 and 3 instead of tiers as well.

Examples,

Thorax - MWD -10% signature radius.
Cyclone - 1 low or 1 extra mid slot.
Prophecy - 5 missile high slots and +5% rate of fire for HAMs (step toward HAM legions)

I think you would be surprised by how just a few little tweaks can make a huge difference to us.

Chants with a picket sign, "More viable options!"

Edit:


Thanks for providing the financial incentive.

Do people like being herded into just a few options?

Drake -> Tengu -> Chimera

... and here are the best six fits, two for each, one for PVE and one for PVP?

How many of those would you really expect to have even a 50/50 chance with a good Drake or Hurricane? Optimum vs optimum set up and pilots?

There is a reason those two are the most used Battle cruisers and it isn't just play style. That we even go around calling them Tier 1 and Tier 2, we inherently accept that they are inferior.

Balance like this comes out of need. Not cause a few players suggested it. That said, its good subject to debate. Interested to hear dev opinions

I enjoy using strategies of lower tier ships and don't forget they can be much much cheaper on the market. Especially the battleships

Or maybe it's a comment on target selection, a very important part of successful solo and small gang PvP, which you don't seem to know a lot about, so I forgive you.

let me see here.

Dominix - swiss army knife. you can fit it for offense, bait, and logi.

typhoon - BAIT, bump, good dps, or dps and neuts.

scorpion - lots of ecm.

geddon, - puls lazer melter

brutix - good blaster boat, can be nano fit for lulz - see also suicide ganking.

ferox - pod and frig ganking.

cyclone - good mission boat, nice shield boost bonus.

prophecy - BAIT.

Anyway, those are all tech 1 tier 1 ships. YOU may think they have no role, but they have a role if you define one for them. Personally they are all good bait if you ask me.

EVE pvp is designed around fleet engagements, not solo roaming because CCP wants to market videos of fleet battles, not two boxes dancing with each other. That a few ships are considered "better" for solo by the playerbase is pure accident.

Breacher. Inquisitor. Executioner. Atron. Maulus. Celestis. Moa. Prophecy. Ferox. Cormorant. Catalyst. Coercer. Auguror. Bellicose. Condor. Slasher.

The tier 1 cruisers are all terrible. I mean, how often do you see anyone flying an Augoror or a Scythe? They're even terrible in their intended role. To make a functioning remote rep Exequror or Osprey, for example, requires so many fitting and capacitor mods that they'd die if you blew on them.

Tier 1 cruisers should be as effective in their intended role as higher tier cruisers. I.e. an Exequror should be as effective at logistics as a Thorax is at melting face. But they should also serve as a 'gateway' to new players who are just starting with cruisers by being a jack of all trades.

A similar thing needs to happen for tier 1 battlecruisers. Make them distinct to their tier 2 big brothers, but make them just as effective in their own role as the tier 2s are in theirs. At the same time, they should be easier to fly effectively than the tier 2s i.e. less specialised.

Basically, the lower the tier, the easier the ship should be to fly. With better skills, there shouldn't be a difference in perceived overall quality of one cruiser over another, or one battlecruiser over another, only a difference in their most effective role.