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Heth strikes at State citizens - Report

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Simon Louvaki
Khaldari InnoTektoniks and Analytical Solutions
#121 - 2013-03-05 20:21:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Simon Louvaki
Seriphyn Inhonores wrote:

That is one issue of meritocracy. You can't necessarily trust the person advancing has everyone's best interest at heart. At least there is the pretense of such in democracy. But I'm not going to pretend I think democracy is infallible.


Meritocracy and self-sacrifice is what kept our people alive during the Dark Ages. The most capable is by definition the one who cares most about the collective, and achieves his position by working for the better good of the whole. That is the reason many Caldari are capable of sustaining what appears to be abuse to outsiders; its faith that those who have proven themselves worthy of leadership are doing what is necessary to ensure the good of the State. The good of the people.

Unfortunately it was our exercise in Democracy that led us to Tibus Heth, not meritocracy.

Heth didn't arrive to his position based on merit, but based on the promise of merit and change which led to the explosion of the repressed masses. What we have under Heth might have started out as meritocracy, indeed before I was a capsuleer I was a Tribunal Prosecutor and we rooted out a great deal of corruption and nepotism in the State under Heth's original programs, but now all I see are Provists and other Heth loyalists occupying positions that were once cleared for those with the talent to fill them.

Apparently Heth's definition of merit and mine are in conflict.

-- "The weak of mind are quick to judge with slightest tempt; Thus fools go forth to spread false word." - The Scriptures, Book of Trials 2:13 - 2:21

--"At the narrow passage, there is no brother and no friend." - Hyasyoda Proverb

Svetlana Scarlet
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
#122 - 2013-03-06 00:18:33 UTC
Seriphyn Inhonores wrote:
The State system must be at least a little populist, surely? Otherwise, it wouldn't reflect the will of the Caldari people, would it?

That is one issue of meritocracy. You can't necessarily trust the person advancing has everyone's best interest at heart. At least there is the pretense of such in democracy. But I'm not going to pretend I think democracy is infallible.


Why would it matter if it reflected the will of the Caldari people? What is the value in mob rule? This is what you and your kind will never understand. The important thing is that the State do what is in the best interests of the Caldari people, which is not the same as what they think is in their best interests.

Our leaders are chosen -- should be chosen -- based on a track record of providing the most value to their constituents, their shareholders; those with an actual investment in their success or failure. It is when we neglect this process, when our leaders become captive to the mob as those in the Federation are, that we run into the kind of trouble we see today.
Vikarion
Doomheim
#123 - 2013-03-06 01:40:25 UTC
Seriphyn Inhonores wrote:
The State system must be at least a little populist, surely? Otherwise, it wouldn't reflect the will of the Caldari people, would it?


To hell with "the will of the people".

What matters is numbers. Isk made, jobs created, share value, planets held.

Thousands of Caldari died by the hand of a corporation run by Heth, died with no appreciable value accrued by their deaths. They died largely because KK and Heth did not want to realize that the monster they serve - populism - is turning on them.

The will of the Caldari people, in any case, is to be Caldari. It is to function as a meritocracy, to avoid corruption and waste. These sentiments brought Heth to power. But Heth apparently did not realize this. Janus Bravour did, but he is gone. So now Heth believes that his power comes from appeal to the mob. But, in the end, his downfall will come about because of the fact that the Caldari "mob" is not like the Federation's. We, the people, the shareholders, the employees, and the managers, will demand results.
Gosakumori Noh
Coven of One
#124 - 2013-03-06 02:24:59 UTC
Vikarion wrote:


To hell with "the will of the people".

...

We, the people, the shareholders, the employees, and the managers, will demand results.



I do admire instability in any argument, but are you quite certain that you've thought your position through?
Vikarion
Doomheim
#125 - 2013-03-06 07:29:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Vikarion
Gosakumori Noh wrote:
Vikarion wrote:


To hell with "the will of the people".

...

We, the people, the shareholders, the employees, and the managers, will demand results.



I do admire instability in any argument, but are you quite certain that you've thought your position through?


The "will of the people" is a political phrase. It denotes the majority will of the citizenry. The groups I stated are stakeholders in an individual enterprise, and may or may not be the majority of the people at large. I suppose I should be more obvious, but some things I tend to take as commonly understood - which I shouldn't, because not everyone has read everything I've written. Therefore, I apologize.

What I was trying to say, and apparently not conveying, is that the Caldari "people", as a mass, don't have a say over how any particular corporation is run, nor should they. But they, in general, if we were to take their views into account, that still wouldn't get us to where Heth or the Gallente want us to go.