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CCP actually played her own game and realized that the blaster vents had a good point 3 years ago?

But hey they still didn't catch up to the concept that a close range ship actually need some sort of bigger tank/ehp than the long range ones that use kitting, making the Talos actually the 2. worse, only toped by the naga that doesn't looks useful for anything beyond super sized sniper hac with 425mm rails so far.

Let us wait the expansion on TQ and see who is who. I hope that theese attributes that we have on Sisi are not final, and they will be improved (or balanced ? =) ) on the upcoming masstests.

I'm very happy that CCP paid attention to gallente's problems. But oh my brain! - More tracking for blasters, less pg reqiurements for them - is good, but main problem is still here - inbalance between gall's speed and fire range.
Simple example - brutix vs hurricane: 1st can't do anything (except a bit drone damage) to kite'ing cane, which have higher speed and longer range. The same with Mega and Tempest.

In my view this has one good solution: a bonus to range of stasis web for brutix (and other blaster boats) that will make the ranges of web and disruptor equal.

This will not give serious advantage to Brutix especially against another Brutix =) But in case with kite'ing hurricane it will help somehow to go closer (~10km when a huri have a web too, but w/o such bonus), where cold shine of blasters already seen and become a reason of enemy's feet tremor .)

The only negative effect of this bonus is one, imho: it will be more problematic for frig-size tackers to keep such brutix from warpout. But I think it is possible to make this range bonus NOT WORK on frig-size (only on frig-size!).


Please, write your ideas about this, I'm always ready for constructive critics =)


P.S. I wish good luck to CCP in realization of their big plans this winter, and wish they rebalance not a single weapons but a whole ships as integral self-sufficient entity on a battlefield.

Wow nice job. I like its nose now :)

I think either web bonus is a very bad idea
the range bonus would leave no reason to fly a loki ever again (for me anyway) and has allways belonged to minmatar
the web strength bonus would not stop them from being kited at all its just gonna be overkill on gates
making it impossible for every ship that can be locked in time to escape
thats why those bonuses should be limited to more expensive ships like the ashimmu and vigilant

what ccp should do is in my eyes easy
just buff all gallente hulls to be the fastest by far
minmatar should need to use long range webbing ships in their fleet if they want to kite gallente
yes they would get rather powerful when used as shield fits BUT just give them the slowest turning rate off all

right now on TQ the brutix is only 145m/s fast while the cane does 165

since I don't like nerf bats id just go and make the brutix go 185 or even 200 if necessary to make a big enough difference

gallente blaster boats should just be unkiteable without a web or two
but they should be turning slow enough that a mini ship can just dodge em

CCP Please tell me these stats are all wrong because this is depressing. The tracking bonus is long overdue but no increase to blaster range? Really? Less agile than the armored pigs already are? Let me see, warp in, even at zero on a fast moving target which is hard to achieve, and then by the time you lock and slowly accelerate the enemy is out of scram/web/gun range. This sucks. Plus when its time to GTFO since blaster boats can't fight aligned well due to range of guns, good luck getting out with a slow align time with this worse agility. Plus in orbit the increase in speed will be negated by the inability to hold the orbit due to worse agility.

+1. Sad but true
Wait, on the other side - very small number of pilots fly gallente ==> Gallente ships stays some kind of Exclusive xD

Ok, I agree w/ Crazy KSK that web range bonus will lead to overposted with on-gate-kills KBs.
Then I see 3 another ways (more or less bad):
- balancing the sensor dampening technology (to give no chance for that Hurri to shoot Brut at distance >10km) [rather good way]
- balancing speeds of gallente-s [so-so]
- increasing the range of blasters [the worst scenario]

Some more thoughts? )

id love sensor damps to get buffed (long overdue as well) but to make them useful on brutixes which has only 1 slot to spare
they would have to be extremely powerful.... i.e. one damp -> under 10km targeting range

I think the only way is to make gallente the fastest race
increasing the range of blasters would just make them obsolete and another kind of auto cannons


PS: pls ccp give the new 4 'BCs' their own class =(

It seems that a new re-balancing of empire will be needed.
PVP in empire should be only during wars, and not all the time with suicide attacks.
Soon we might see FreighteraGeddon.

Blaster haters gonna hate.

We all know EVE is a solo pvp game, but there are those few underhanded types that fly with other people or (Empress forbid) alts that use these things known as "Skirmish Links." Even worse, use dirty tricks like "Overload" to increase the range of "Warp Scrambler" and "Stasis Webifiers"even further. These dasterdly tools shut down Microwarp Drives in a heart beat, slow it down to over half its cruising speed, and stop the loved by all Hurricane from kiting the brutish Brutix and weak and stupid Megathron. There have even been reports of, the so called, Rokh using said tactics! Curse those Gallente and Caldari scum! How dare the mighty Hurricane be brought low by such a noobish tactic! We're all well aware that the Hurricane is the only ship to fly in EVE and all other tactics are...

NULL and VOID

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I can't wait to hear the Gallente tears as this ship gets owned in fight after fight. How does CCP figure that a paper thin short range brawler is going to work? Lets see, Talos coming at me with MWD on and massive sig radius. Push fire on my weapons and keep burning away from him. Pop. He'll never get get to turn the webs/guns on because he'll already be primary and never close the distance in time. Yes, this ship will have some use at gate camps, in big blobs, and ganking. Great. Yawn. So do other more survivable Gallente ships now. OH, sure, you'll get a warp in by a cloaky now and then. It will happen to some, but hard to do if the kiting ships are always burning if they are doing it right.

When will CCP figure out that a short range brawler should be a shield tanked fast ship with very high resists. That works. Armor tanked ships need range, which is why Amarr does well with their lasers. But hey, I'm excited because these things will be on a lot of killmails as the victim until they get tired of dying and stop getting flown much like the rest of the broken Gallente line.

For the historical perspective, battlecruisers are supposed to be heavily armed but lightly armored. At the battle of Jutland a British Admiral forgot this fact and tried brawling his BC's versus the German main fleet and literally got them popped. Lightly tanked battlecruisers must fight at distance, hit fast and move or get destroyed. This Gallente ship will go the way of the HMS Invincible.