Intergalactic Summit

Given the situation, anyone thinking the Levithain is going to attack Gallente Prime is kidding themselves. It's not an offensive threat against it after sitting there in a known position & alignment for so long. The Navy will have it under observation from cloakies, they will have tackle inbetween it and Gallente Prime to pop it out of warp.

The Levithain is there to continue to hold Gallente citizens on Caldari Prime to ransom.

Congratulations you have managed to once again take the meaning out of someones statement completely for your own gains. We are not going to kill millions of people on a whim, but Heth might if he had no other choice in the matter ie his government was about to fall. A deal like this would remove the threat of the Titan from your people but also guaranty that Caldari Prime would remain in Caldari hands.



You make it sound like your are in a position to negotiate such a ridiculous demand. Your forces in Black Rise are on the back foot, Placid is being taken by Caldari forces, one of the biggest alliances in your militia just left you. At best you could ask for Intaki back and that is about as unlikely to happen as us giving you Black Rise.

We are all well aware of the pendulum effect of the war. My point still stands, you have no way to back up your demand for Black Rise in return for Caldari Prime. The fact is we already have the planet a deal like this would just be dotting the I's and crossing the T's and it would also remove the threat of death from orbit which is what the Federation has been asking for since the Titan arrived.

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Mine was only rhetorical.



You sure seem convinced that it can actually do it. What makes you so sure if I may ask ?

I, personally, do not have a clear answer on that one for that a I lack of a lot of determining factors.

Just to ensure I answer your question Ms. Farel, I'll transpose my answer to the same question you asked in another thread.



Its not so much that I'm assured that it can do it as much as I'm sure that Heth would try it and the depending on the response time of Federation/CONCORD ships and the proximity of the Leviathan to the planet when it (inevitably) is destroyed would be catastrophic to those on the planet below. There is but one certainty in all this; Heth is capable of such a travesty. Hopefully the men and women of that ship are not.

Oh yes, I remember the 'patriotic efforts' of the 'freedom fighters' on Caldari Prime from when they tried to kill me during a hiking holiday. I found our 'full and frank exchange of views' most refreshing.

At least have the testicular fortitude to refer to terrorism as terrorism. I'm quite disappointed to see the same man who was clamouring for peace a few short months ago supporting the efforts of hooligans and criminals.

Let me tell you a thing or two about the military realities in New Eden.

The Federation is in the second best if not the best military position in the cluster. In a full-scale war that involved solely the Federation and the State and no-one else, the Federation would very likely win. It wouldn't be an easy fight and we'd most certainly get our money's worth in terms of loss, but we'd win, that's almost certain, and I've actually met few Caldari who'd disagree on this point - given that it's a purely hypothetical scenario anyway. This was not the case a century ago, but it isn't a century ago, and the circumstances have changed significantly since then. Alternatively, in a pitched war against the Amarr with no other parties involved, we'd not lose. We certainly couldn't win, and we'd very likely lose territory, but it's unlikely in the extreme that the Amarr could conquer the entire Federation, and on the remote off-chance that they did, the strain of holding it would most likely cause some manner of internal collapse.

Meanwhile, in a pitched battle between the Republic and the Empire with no intervention, it's most likely the Amarr would win. Again, they'd have a hell of a time of it, and whether they could hold the Republic is an open question, but as strong as the Republic has become it doesn't have the power to repel a full-scale Imperial invasion on its own.

The current situation in New Eden represents an unstable equilibrium. Even if it had any desire to, the Federation couldn't launch a full-scale invasion of the State because it would weaken its borders with the Empire, and contrariwise, the State wouldn't dare do the opposite for fear of opening themselves up to a Minmatar sneak attack (note that Heth didn't launch his invasion of Luminaire until the Republic was thoroughly distracted). Likewise, the Federation can't engage in a joint attack against the Empire with the Republic because they'd leave their back exposed to the State, and the Empire daren't attempt a Reclaiming lest it rapidly find itself devoid of Aridia and northern Genesis, with Khanid begging for help against a Federation counter-offensive.

The only shakeup would come is if one of the empires suddenly had a very convincing reason not to act, or to act in a way outside the parameters of the relations they previously held with the other three major powers.

CONCORD, of course, claims that it renders all of these considerations a moot point. They are certainly entitled to this belief.

Cpt. Ixiris, you bring up valid points. However, there are to many variables involved with a total war between our respective countries. There is no way to accurately predict an outcome of such a war.

That's actually an inaccurate assessment of the Federation's weaknesses. Training and technology have never been major issues for the Federation's military, and morale is generally a situational issue - it's been recruitment. The Federation citizenry in general are not particularly warlike, and the only time one generally sees massive surges in recruitment is during periods of political strife.