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john 172
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#1 - 2013-03-03 10:15:04 UTC
In mission I am generally OK with most missions, but missions that include large gas pockets or whatever those massive clouds are just drive my FPS to the ground. So what i want to know is what graphics option on the menu controls those effects i have searched online maybe not very well but i can't find anything about it. If anyone can help it would be very appreciated.
Obvious Cyno Alt
Doomheim
#2 - 2013-03-03 10:32:30 UTC
So you play on a 90s Texas Instruments Calculator? Please tell me more! What?

FFS, EVE is probably one of the lightest games out there at the moment and people still find time to actually ***** about their own crappy, 20 year old calculator not being able to run the game properly in some cases.

CCP should just post up the MINIMUM requirements and tell you to **** OFF when you complain about the game and don't match up to those requirements.
Josef Djugashvilis
#3 - 2013-03-03 10:45:03 UTC
CCP are aware of this issue, and in another thread (no, I can't be bothered to look for it) have said that it is being looked at.

To the OP, I believe zooming out helps a lot.

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Toto Zinny
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#4 - 2013-03-03 11:02:04 UTC
I am sure that they are aware of this problem, because it's a big problem. Nice graphics mean for noting if you are viewing them at 5fps.

I don't think they are quite sure how to fix ,or remove these terrible cloud things, but I look forward to the day when they finally figure it out.
Archa4 Badasaz
Vangazhi
#5 - 2013-03-03 11:04:05 UTC
Obvious Cyno Alt wrote:
So you play on a 90s Texas Instruments Calculator? Please tell me more! What?

FFS, EVE is probably one of the lightest games out there at the moment and people still find time to actually ***** about their own crappy, 20 year old calculator not being able to run the game properly in some cases.

CCP should just post up the MINIMUM requirements and tell you to **** OFF when you complain about the game and don't match up to those requirements.


I think YOU should "**** OFF". You do realize this game came out ~2003?
Some people started playing this game a long time ago and invested money and time in this game.
It is possible not to have enough to buy a 1000$+ computer and there should be an option to play without those fancy graphics.

About the clouds - yeah zooming out helps and i think I read similar things to previous poster, about this issue being looked at...
Charlepetit LaJoie
Trust Me Ltd
#6 - 2013-03-03 11:04:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Charlepetit LaJoie
Settings
Display & Graphics
Display
Present Interval (set it to "Interval one")

That change might be enough to fix your fps problem. If not, you can try the following:

Settings
Display & Graphics
Graphic Content Settings
HDR Enabled (try unchecking that).
Post Processing (if unchecking HDR is not enough, try setting Post Processing to "Low" or even "None").
Mr Kidd
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2013-03-03 11:15:29 UTC
Charlepetit LaJoie wrote:
Settings
Display & Graphics
Display
Present Interval (set it to "Interval one")

That change might be enough to fix your fps problem.


Do you even know what Interval settings do?

Quote:

If not, you can try the following:

Settings
Display & Graphics
Graphic Content Settings
HDR Enabled (try unchecking that).
Post Processing (if unchecking HDR is not enough, try setting Post Processing to "Low" or even "None").



Have you even experienced this problem?

I'd have to answer NO for you on both counts.

Even with HDR set off and everything else on low the particle count in gas clouds using only one client will cause your GPU utilization to go apesht. Frankly, gas clouds annoy me. They're overly bright washing out your module status, difficult to avoid on screen and purely due to their annoyance factor (not gpu utilization) require me to zoom all the way out so I don't blind myself looking at them and so that I can see my module. Because I'm zoomed all the way out, why would I want them on grid anyway?

Don't ban me, bro!
Obvious Cyno Alt
Doomheim
#8 - 2013-03-03 11:18:20 UTC
Archa4 Badasaz wrote:
Obvious Cyno Alt wrote:
So you play on a 90s Texas Instruments Calculator? Please tell me more! What?

FFS, EVE is probably one of the lightest games out there at the moment and people still find time to actually ***** about their own crappy, 20 year old calculator not being able to run the game properly in some cases.

CCP should just post up the MINIMUM requirements and tell you to **** OFF when you complain about the game and don't match up to those requirements.


I think YOU should "**** OFF". You do realize this game came out ~2003?
Some people started playing this game a long time ago and invested money and time in this game.
It is possible not to have enough to buy a 1000$+ computer and there should be an option to play without those fancy graphics.

About the clouds - yeah zooming out helps and i think I read similar things to previous poster, about this issue being looked at...


Do I realize that this game came out in 2003? Yes!
Do I realize that not all people will be able to buy new computers from time to time? Yes!
Do I think they should cater to people still using rigs from 2003? **** NO!

It comes up to a point where you simply can't add the smallest of things without breaking the gaming experience for someone using a computer that's 5/6 years old. Honestly, they do one hell of a job at that, as I can still play eve PERFECTLY with my old laptop and that thing is a dinosaur!

If the OP is having trouble playing EVE with everything set in minimum then I guess it's on him to get a ******* life and buy a new computer! :) (so sorry for saying what everyone else is thinking!)
Charlepetit LaJoie
Trust Me Ltd
#9 - 2013-03-03 11:39:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Charlepetit LaJoie
Mr Kidd wrote:
Do you even know what Interval settings do?

Sorry, I didn't mean to suggest that the interval setting would turn off the cloud effects. However, setting that to "Interval one" will tend to improve fps in general.
Roime
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#10 - 2013-03-03 11:40:21 UTC
No, that's not what everyone else is thinking. The clouds cause a massive, unnecessary strain on the gfx card. It's so hard, that the fans on my card start spinning and I find that highly annoying.

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Ptraci
3 R Corporation
#11 - 2013-03-03 12:29:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Ptraci
Roime wrote:
No, that's not what everyone else is thinking. The clouds cause a massive, unnecessary strain on the gfx card. It's so hard, that the fans on my card start spinning and I find that highly annoying.



Yup same here. And my "TI calculator" is in fact a water cooled quad core 4+GHz beast with TWO screaming 500 series nvidia cards and multiple gigabytes of video RAM. While my system doesn't come anywhere near melting or dropping frames, it does kick the fans up into high gear in those clouds and of course, Captain's quarters! Because displaying a couch and some screens uses up far more resources than say, Battlefield 3.
Mr Kidd
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2013-03-03 12:34:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Mr Kidd
Charlepetit LaJoie wrote:
Mr Kidd wrote:
Do you even know what Interval settings do?

Sorry, I didn't mean to suggest that the interval setting would turn off the cloud effects. However, setting that to "Interval one" will tend to improve fps in general.



Interval one is a limiter on the number of FPS that a GPU will render. Example, a lite graphical environment your GPU could render 200fps causing GPU utilization to hit 100% for no good reason. Where in a heavily populated graphical environment that same GPU will only render 25FPS. Setting Interval one keeps the GPU from rendering 200FPS in the lite graphical environment lowering overall GPU utilization.

The issue with gas clouds has nothing to do with the interval. The particle count in them is so high as to cause GPU utilization to shoot through the roof while FPS crashes. The GPU is being overtaxed for no good reason.

Don't ban me, bro!
Natsett Amuinn
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#13 - 2013-03-03 12:41:22 UTC
Obvious Cyno Alt wrote:
Archa4 Badasaz wrote:
Obvious Cyno Alt wrote:
So you play on a 90s Texas Instruments Calculator? Please tell me more! What?

FFS, EVE is probably one of the lightest games out there at the moment and people still find time to actually ***** about their own crappy, 20 year old calculator not being able to run the game properly in some cases.

CCP should just post up the MINIMUM requirements and tell you to **** OFF when you complain about the game and don't match up to those requirements.


I think YOU should "**** OFF". You do realize this game came out ~2003?
Some people started playing this game a long time ago and invested money and time in this game.
It is possible not to have enough to buy a 1000$+ computer and there should be an option to play without those fancy graphics.

About the clouds - yeah zooming out helps and i think I read similar things to previous poster, about this issue being looked at...


Do I realize that this game came out in 2003? Yes!
Do I realize that not all people will be able to buy new computers from time to time? Yes!
Do I think they should cater to people still using rigs from 2003? **** NO!

It comes up to a point where you simply can't add the smallest of things without breaking the gaming experience for someone using a computer that's 5/6 years old. Honestly, they do one hell of a job at that, as I can still play eve PERFECTLY with my old laptop and that thing is a dinosaur!

If the OP is having trouble playing EVE with everything set in minimum then I guess it's on him to get a ******* life and buy a new computer! :) (so sorry for saying what everyone else is thinking!)

The op didn't say he was playing on minimum setting.

I play with the game maxed out. I have no issue with fps with one exception, the massive gas clouds.

And apparently CCP is aware of the performance hit those clouds cause.

I don't use a 5 year old pc, it's oldest component is like 2.



4runner
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2013-03-03 13:57:49 UTC
Same here, run game on max settings with two AMD 6970, very FPS stable in every situation, until I see those gas clouds and my frames drop badly.

This has nothing to do with hardware, it's just a bug with the gas cloud rendering and I hope CCP will fix it soon
Frozen Eddie Johnson
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#15 - 2013-03-03 21:10:20 UTC
I'd like to see where they say they're aware of it. Last I heard, they thought they fixed it by changing the clouds in the first Retribution release, which actually caused it to get 10x worse for a lot of people. I don't have an old computer, and my GPU utilization jumps to 99% indefinitely when these "new" clouds are on screen. 100+ ships all shooting each other with no clouds? GPU utilization never goes above 40%. This happens whether I have settings on max, or minimum.

Upon posting this and having quite a few others agree, CCP conveniently stopped responding to the thread. I followed it for a month or so before I stopped bothering, because it seems to clearly be another "CCP doesn't give a ****" issue (like most issues). If anyone could point me to recent posts stating otherwise(as in this year), I'd appreciate it.
Bienator II
madmen of the skies
#16 - 2013-03-03 21:12:47 UTC
ccp probably made a deal with graphics card manufactures to keep those clouds as is.

how to fix eve: 1) remove ECM 2) rename dampeners to ECM 3) add new anti-drone ewar for caldari 4) give offgrid boosters ongrid combat value
Zarcan
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#17 - 2013-03-03 23:36:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Zarcan
Obvious Cyno Alt wrote:
So you play on a 90s Texas Instruments Calculator? Please tell me more! What?

FFS, EVE is probably one of the lightest games out there at the moment and people still find time to actually ***** about their own crappy, 20 year old calculator not being able to run the game properly in some cases.

CCP should just post up the MINIMUM requirements and tell you to **** OFF when you complain about the game and don't match up to those requirements.


Oh my god dude. All he said his FPS is lagging when there's particle effects. Mine does too.

Don't be such a jerk about your rig. Not everyone has a lot of capital to invest in a gaming rig. I was lucky to be able to upgrade to my ftx 550 ti last year.

OP, I have a similar issue but it doesn't slow down too much. Honestly AA is the first thing I cut back, but I just zoom out usually to avoid it.
Stan'din
Pandemic Alpha
#18 - 2013-03-04 03:01:09 UTC
GTX 560 ti
i5
8gb ram




thats not a lot of money.

Your about as much use as a condom dispenser in the Vatican.
yer mammy
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2013-03-04 03:27:13 UTC
Stan'din wrote:
GTX 560 ti
i5
8gb ram




thats not a lot of money.



it has nothing to do with what rig you're using you dolt. read the thread.
Stan'din
Pandemic Alpha
#20 - 2013-03-04 03:39:36 UTC
No you butt monkey that is in response to the people whining about not wanting to spend a lot of money on a new rig



Your about as much use as a condom dispenser in the Vatican.
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