Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Hey all.

Personally i think the naga should be a large missile platform because the teir 3's seem to follow their races style/speciality.

Secondly i have noticed the minmatar have a better drone battleship than the amarr typhoon vs armageddon. Personally i feel that the apoc should have more drones as it does not have a damage bonus like the abbadon and the armageddon. Maybe give it 125 bandwith and 200 drone bay to allow 5 heavies/sentreis 5 meds and 5 lights so its better than the typhoon but not as good as the dominix and if this does happen may i suggest a change for the apoc navy issue to follow suit (just change bandwith and bay). Lemme know what you think.

Thanks, Steel

CCP said no to a missile Naga, during development, post development, during proposed rebalance talks, and will say no to it again.
They are large gun ships and are quite good at that, Leave them alone.

I would expect that the typhoon will loose most of its drone bay as they want to remove the jack of all trades label from it.
An Amarr battle ship, as to not compete with the Dominix on any level, would get 100Mbps of bandwidth and 300~400 drone bay. Which would be a downgrade in DPS but an upgrade in versatility so it is kind of choose your poison.

Also would you say upgrading the Apoc's drone capabilities is more reasonable than Abaddon or Armageddon since they have damage bonuses already.

the Armageddon already has 125mb drone bandwidth and the apoc is a sniper

Dev posts/blogs hinted the phoon would end up closer to a post rebalancing oversized cyclone - missiles and some drone capabilities but not as heavy drone capabilities as it has now - so probably something along the lines of 150m3/75mbit or 100/100.

One thing I've been thinking lately - would be nice to see a bit of a shake up when it comes to amarr and drones (and drones in general) for instance amarr drone boats would get something like:

5% bonus per level to Amarr drone damage and mwd velocity
10% per level to the effectiveness of energy neutraliser and tracking disruptor drones

and then change up cal ecm boats so they end up something like this for the falcon:

20% bonus to ecm target jammer strength per level (down from 30)
10% per level to the effectivness of ecm drones

Then give the falcon an increase to drone capabilities to say 75/50 - now the falcon can be partially countered by smartbombs, etc. tho does give it some potentially to keep something jammed and apply okish dps if they used damage drones which would need balancing.


These numbers haven't been worked out just rough examples.

Large missiles are bad. Just bad as Motorcycle at a peaks of Himalayas. That's why there are no missile Tier3 BC.

To amarr ships: I personally think amarr BS lineup is plain boring.

Armageddon: passive armor tank laser damage slow movement.
Apocalypse: passive armor tank laser damage slow movement.
Abaddon: passive armor tank laser damage slow movement.

No imagination, no variety, no complexity. I understand that those ships have their flavours, but to me it's just like:
- Fish with vegetables
- Fish with potato
- Fish with salad

please leave my Naga alone, after all of the rebalancing, (so called buffs) and stealth nerfs to active tanking and overt nerfs like the heavy missile rebalancing, my Naga is the only I have that is still works as intended.

Still it's not all bad, I now run L4 missions in a ferox and just recycled an Armageddon into scrap as it caps out faster than garfield eats lasagne.

No. Caldari use railguns too, Naga fits.



No. Typhoon is getting changed and the Amarr "droneboat" is Armageddon, not Apocalypse.

actually i think u will find the prefered mission boat cos of drones is the apoc especially navy issue then u can have 3 sentries and 5 lights