Missions & Complexes

Run incursions in fleets, make 120m/hr plus concord lp, profit

In a nutshell if the alt is "worth it" depends on your playtime and if you are using it for something else as well. Say, for example, cynos, scouting gates, second barge when you mine or Orca if you want to do it that way, industry, PI, etc. But it basically boils down to playtime in a month as far as missions go as missionrunning income scales linearly with the time used to run them at fixed efficency.

Another thing to note with missionrunning alt wingman is, that it allows you an extra decline within 4 h window so he/she can save you some travel time, depending on how far is the next agent you turn towards if you hit the 4h timer.

However, at first flying with alt increases also probability of a shiploss. There are many missions with tripwires in them that can be triggered if you have more than one pilot present in there. Enemies Abound, Worlds Collide, for example can melt even pretty well tanked ships in surprising speed if you stumble into the boobytraps in there. I think Worlds collide was able to put well excess 2000 dps in the second stage full agro. I recently lost a alts drake in there which went down with max skilled minmatar logi running 1 large and 3 medium shield transfers on it from the moment it got the full agro. That is roughly equivalent running 1x XL shield booster and 3x large shields boosters locally. It was not exceptionally well skilled alt bu she did have proper set of hardeners and Battlecruisers lev 5 so resists were pretty ok. It was angel/snahsa WC and happened on the Sansha side.



I would not say quite 50%, more like ~40%. There is some effectivity loss when running multiple accounts as opposed to being able to fully consentrate on piloting one ship. Also travel between gates takes as much time with 2 pilots as it does with a single pilot so having 2 chars present does not quite just cut the mission running time in half.

Other than that, the ballpark of approx 100 mil / h is correct in my experience. Means pretty pimped setup though and good amount of experience to know exactly how and what are you doing. A faction fitted pirate BS with max skills and proper hardwires, T3 gank cruisers and ofc picking the best ship for the mission with possibility of declining the particularly low income timesink missions. You can ofc substitute the faction fits and ships by just throwing more of the regular ships at the thing up to some degree when running multiple accounts and cherry picking only the good missions.

agreed!

although...

i am doing my missions in a navy domi with T2 sentries...

if that would be accepted in incursion fleets, I could switch....

do you get faction standings increase for incursions too ??

haven't done incursions since the new ai patch, not sure if they're useful there anymore or not.

To be perfectly honest if you can run level 4s in respectable time (should be with t2 sentries) and salvage+ loot everything you make comparable isk to incursions. It's also a lot easier to find time to do solo missions than to hope for an incursion group.

Not really, because the toon itself also has value. You can sell the toon to recoup what you spent on all that PLEX.

I have become spoiled when in comes to mission running now{actually i dont think it even qualifies as mission running}. My setup with 3 accounts is navy dominix, navy raven and basilisk. All three accounts have caldari faction at 5.0+ and I exclusively farm Enemies abound 5/5.

My method is a little bit scary esp when using expensive gank fit ships. I warp to the sites i want to run in a shuttle, get the waves started then return with alts to clean up. Fully spawned enemies abound 5/5 has ridiculous dps but its manageable with min maxing and over heat. Tags + loot = 60m for about 20 mins of work.

the cons are can only run each mission site once per downtime, keeping track of mission expirations, and gallente faction standings loss -10.