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Opting out of everything - soloing EVE

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Vortexo VonBrenner
Doomheim
#21 - 2013-02-23 22:31:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Vortexo VonBrenner
Well.......ok....

...and some say I am a bit antisocial... OP makes me feel more social than a cruise director and tour guide combined...
Takseen
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
#22 - 2013-02-23 23:03:35 UTC
Using http://myeveguide.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/eve-wtd.jpg as a base and excluding everything requiring player interaction, you can
-buy and sell NPC trade goods at a profit, or do courier missions
-buy BPOs from NPCs and manufacture T1 stuff using minerals you mined or melted down from npc loot drops
-set up a highsec Planetary Interaction colony, though you may not find much use for the materials produced
-explore wormholes and kill sleepers and take their stuff
-kill rats in anomalies, belts and combat missions. You could buy stuff from their LP store but any item that requires tags would be a pain in the ass.
-probe down cosmic signatures. Best ones are the combat sites that will drop faction gear you could use to upgrade from T1 or meta loot.

That's about it.
You'd probably want to set some overarching goal. Like building your own Orca from scratch, or completing the level 4 epic arc of your home empire with self-made/found items only.
Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
#23 - 2013-02-23 23:19:03 UTC
For the first month I played EvE I bought nothing but BPOs and skill books.

http://youtu.be/t0q2F8NsYQ0

Herbinator d'Arcadie
Arkadian Knight
#24 - 2013-02-24 05:47:40 UTC
Harsh, man. The "market" is impersonal. You should give yourself that, at least.
Just form your own corporation and play solo. Works for me.

No need to talk to anyone. Except maybe carrying around a bottle of the rarest wine ... to sweet-talk the prettiest girls by container-light.

"Block" pigs. Refuse to fly with them.

Diesel47
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#25 - 2013-02-24 08:06:52 UTC
"you either get it yourself(from enemies"

How about forcing another player to eject from their ship by ransom?
Psychotic Monk
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#26 - 2013-02-24 08:09:06 UTC
I think this is hilarious and excellent.

When someone finds some way to suprise pvp you or demand a ransom or whatever, what's your stance on that re: interaction?
Oraac Ensor
#27 - 2013-02-24 08:40:13 UTC
Vortexo VonBrenner wrote:
...not really a NCQA thing, eh?

How could it possibly be anything else?
J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#28 - 2013-02-24 14:13:53 UTC
Diesel47 wrote:
"you either get it yourself(from enemies"

How about forcing another player to eject from their ship by ransom?


Ransoming another player = player interaction and thus not allowed.

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Piugattuk
Litla Sundlaugin
#29 - 2013-02-24 15:12:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Piugattuk
Without trolling here's your simple answer;

The amount of things in eve to build are overwhelming especially a no skill/low skill non indy player would be left with a bitter taste right out of the box.

Secondly ;

This game is primarily PVP focused and PVE secondary, as a miner, indy im ok with going out to gather my needs but even I wouldn't want to spend that much time gathering and a primarily PVP focused player certainly won't.
Nice Hair Bro
Doomheim
#30 - 2013-02-24 18:52:31 UTC
Turelus wrote:
I have tried this a few times as a side project but every time it's failed due to the crazy amount of time you would have to invest to gain ISK for BPO's etc.

http://eost.blogspot.co.uk/2013/02/what-is-eve-online-survival-test.html

That's my blog entry on it, if you have any question or want some tips send me a mail.


Cool stuff, I'll check it out.

"MadMuppet" wrote:
I have done something like this as well and you run in to several problems early on (although it was kind of cool to do).

Where do you get ships? If you build them then you need BPs, do you spend isk to buy BPCs or do you have to buy a BPO? Sure you get some freebie ships from the career agents, but then what?


A handful of frigates and a destroyer from the career agents should be enough to get my first BPO. Punisher Blueprint is seeded at 2,587,500 ISK - hardly an impossible amount of money, even for a new character. And once I have that, I have my foot in the door so to speak.

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Where do you get equipment? If used to be pretty easy to get guns and such off of mission loot, but after the nerf it got a lot harder. Ammo doesn't drop fast enough (unless you use lasers) so you need to build or buy it.


Guess why I'm going Amarr? T1 lasers never break. As for the corp, I'll go with SoE since it's so easy to get high standings with them thanks to the Epic Arc. Will set up in Simela, 1-3 sec SoE agents there, plus plenty of 0.5 systems in the vicinity to rat in. First month's gonna be grinding Refinery and Refinery Efficiency to 5 so I can get 95% efficiency at 6.67 loyalty. With some luck, I'll hardly have to do any mining at all, since I'll be looting and refining everything from rats.

If I will have to do some mining, I will have two Ventures I believe(someone correct me on the exact amount you get from the tutorials), and their BPOs seem to be actually seeded in... Jita? I'll never need anything bigger since I'm only mining for myself. Full ore bay of regular Veldspar in Venture refines into what, 150k Tritanium? That's enough for a cruiser, or several Ventures.

Rarer ores - again, refining, or I could try to have Wormhole Adventures.

"Psychotic Monk" wrote:
When someone finds some way to suprise pvp you or demand a ransom or whatever, what's your stance on that re: interaction?


Well if I get ganked I get ganked so that's it - it's not like I gained anything from another player, is it? The real problem is wardecs(I'll be going "solo corp" to maximize ISK gain). By the way: the solo playstyle doesn't prevent me from trying to blow other people up, I just can't loot their wrecks afterwards.


And to clarify: I am not really a sociopath, I actually enjoy socializing in MMOs, and I plan on talking to people in local, rookie, etc. chats in the game when doing the solo challenge. Hell, if I get the chance I'll even try and help some noobs out, i.e. with Dagan and whatnot. It's not "**** everyone" gameplay, it's "DIY" gameplay, there's a difference.
J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#31 - 2013-02-24 21:17:37 UTC
Nice Hair Bro wrote:
Turelus wrote:
I have tried this a few times as a side project but every time it's failed due to the crazy amount of time you would have to invest to gain ISK for BPO's etc.

http://eost.blogspot.co.uk/2013/02/what-is-eve-online-survival-test.html

That's my blog entry on it, if you have any question or want some tips send me a mail.


Cool stuff, I'll check it out.

"MadMuppet" wrote:
I have done something like this as well and you run in to several problems early on (although it was kind of cool to do).

Where do you get ships? If you build them then you need BPs, do you spend isk to buy BPCs or do you have to buy a BPO? Sure you get some freebie ships from the career agents, but then what?


A handful of frigates and a destroyer from the career agents should be enough to get my first BPO. Punisher Blueprint is seeded at 2,587,500 ISK - hardly an impossible amount of money, even for a new character. And once I have that, I have my foot in the door so to speak.

Quote:
Where do you get equipment? If used to be pretty easy to get guns and such off of mission loot, but after the nerf it got a lot harder. Ammo doesn't drop fast enough (unless you use lasers) so you need to build or buy it.


Guess why I'm going Amarr? T1 lasers never break. As for the corp, I'll go with SoE since it's so easy to get high standings with them thanks to the Epic Arc. Will set up in Simela, 1-3 sec SoE agents there, plus plenty of 0.5 systems in the vicinity to rat in. First month's gonna be grinding Refinery and Refinery Efficiency to 5 so I can get 95% efficiency at 6.67 loyalty. With some luck, I'll hardly have to do any mining at all, since I'll be looting and refining everything from rats.

If I will have to do some mining, I will have two Ventures I believe(someone correct me on the exact amount you get from the tutorials), and their BPOs seem to be actually seeded in... Jita? I'll never need anything bigger since I'm only mining for myself. Full ore bay of regular Veldspar in Venture refines into what, 150k Tritanium? That's enough for a cruiser, or several Ventures.

Rarer ores - again, refining, or I could try to have Wormhole Adventures.

"Psychotic Monk" wrote:
When someone finds some way to suprise pvp you or demand a ransom or whatever, what's your stance on that re: interaction?


Well if I get ganked I get ganked so that's it - it's not like I gained anything from another player, is it? The real problem is wardecs(I'll be going "solo corp" to maximize ISK gain). By the way: the solo playstyle doesn't prevent me from trying to blow other people up, I just can't loot their wrecks afterwards.


And to clarify: I am not really a sociopath, I actually enjoy socializing in MMOs, and I plan on talking to people in local, rookie, etc. chats in the game when doing the solo challenge. Hell, if I get the chance I'll even try and help some noobs out, i.e. with Dagan and whatnot. It's not "**** everyone" gameplay, it's "DIY" gameplay, there's a difference.


You will need a lot of loot or null sec access to get the high end minerals for production.

I applaud your idea and it IS a hard one, but I doubt you will manage it to play totally solo.

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Schmata Bastanold
In Boobiez We Trust
#32 - 2013-02-24 21:31:19 UTC
Nice Hair Bro wrote:
Just imagine that, starting tommorow, you cannot buy anything from the Market. How would your EVE life look like then and how would you adjust?


I would jump all my current hisec ships into nearest lowsec and had 1 vs local. And then I would quit.

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J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#33 - 2013-02-24 22:22:44 UTC
Schmata Bastanold wrote:
Nice Hair Bro wrote:
Just imagine that, starting tommorow, you cannot buy anything from the Market. How would your EVE life look like then and how would you adjust?


I would jump all my current hisec ships into nearest lowsec and had 1 vs local. And then I would quit.


I'll take you on that....

Personally...I would start using contracts P

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Elena Thiesant
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#34 - 2013-02-24 22:28:09 UTC
Nice Hair Bro wrote:
If I will have to do some mining, I will have two Ventures I believe(someone correct me on the exact amount you get from the tutorials), and their BPOs seem to be actually seeded in... Jita?


They're seeded in the ORE stations out in the Outer Ring (NPC nullsec). The BPOs on sale in Jita are sold by other players (NPC orders have a 365 day expiry).
Kurlieu
The Ore House
#35 - 2013-02-24 23:39:23 UTC
Normally don't post in these forums, I'm a reader only, but your post caught my eye. I think my last post wast 6-8 months ago.

Although nobody "solos" EvE to the exclusion of all player interaction - sooner or later someone will pod you at the very least - I'd encourage you to put your plan to the test. I tried something similar with an alt and I did enjoy it. The first year was rough, but he's currently got 7 billion and a few T II ships. However, it is a lonely existence.


A previous poster said that your idea was " hilarious and excellent", or something to that effect. Which reminded me of a classic series of posts by "Innominate Nightmare" back in 2006 or so. I followed his quest ( as well as did most of EvE at that time) who threw himself into 0.0 with nothing but a frigate - His misadventures were, in fact, hilarious and excellent.

If you are interested in something "completely different", you might give it a read. He also has a blog site somewhere on the web.

http://community.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=370209

nota bene: Innominate Nightmare suffered numerous player interactions.

Cheers,

K

gfldex
#36 - 2013-02-25 04:12:26 UTC
Nice Hair Bro wrote:
for the Battleship skillbook, which is the biggest ship I will have a chance of flying


The skillbook wont be your problem. The BPOs will. It will set you back by at least 1B and to get that you will need to run missions in a BC. That comes at a sporty 350-420M depending on ship type. Cruiser will be cheap with only 60ish. Minerals will be no problem if you pick some loot while you do the missions. If you make 1B in bounty + reward you will gain mineral worth the same in form of refinable loot. Since you can't sell anything you will end with piles of minerals. Salvage is rather pointless as you wont need more then 15 rigs in total (given you don't get your ships exploded). Researching BPOs is pointless as you will never sell any of the ships you build, nor the BPO.

There are a few items that wont drop at all. Like sentry drones. So you have to be picky that ship you want to fly. I would take an apoc and run for amarr to get a navy apoc because it provides a reasonable effective damage in missions. Some faction items require tags what means you have to run missions against factions. So sisters is a bad idea.

It is certainly possible and you will actually have to SP to fly the ship when you are able to buy the BPO.

If you take all the sand out of the box, only the cat poo will remain.

Mongoose Ellecon
Elite Mice
#37 - 2013-02-28 10:48:46 UTC
i would use the market but everything else is possible. Its worked for my main and hes a old char now (assuming 8 years is old).

One man corp and mining/missions has worked out fine for me.

Although i hadnt intended on doing this...when i first started in eve i was told trust no one so i didn't :)
Ovv Topik
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#38 - 2013-02-28 12:37:29 UTC
Kurlieu wrote:

A previous poster said that your idea was " hilarious and excellent", or something to that effect. Which reminded me of a classic series of posts by "Innominate Nightmare" back in 2006 or so. I followed his quest ( as well as did most of EvE at that time) who threw himself into 0.0 with nothing but a frigate - His misadventures were, in fact, hilarious and excellent.

If you are interested in something "completely different", you might give it a read. He also has a blog site somewhere on the web.

http://community.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=370209

nota bene: Innominate Nightmare suffered numerous player interactions.

Cheers,

K


Awesome link mate! Recommended reading.
Seriously.
That should be in print!
I don't go back that far, but lament the clear difference in the mood of the forums back then compared to the bitter resentment that clouds it now.

"Nicknack, I'm in a shoe in space, on my computer, in my house, with a cup of coffee, in't that something." - Fly Safe PopPaddi. o7

TheBlueMonkey
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#39 - 2013-02-28 13:32:59 UTC
If it was me, and I put these restraints on myself.
I'd just quit and play something else.

If you REALLY wanted to go fullretard then there'll be no T2 at all.

All you'd end up doing is exploration, missions and mining.
Which sounds like a recipe for suicide to me.

Play with others, it's way more fun.
Ovv Topik
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#40 - 2013-02-28 13:53:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Ovv Topik
TheBlueMonkey wrote:


Play with others, it's way more fun.

Especially if you make offensive remarks about their hair and ethnicity.Blink
- Don't dis the 'rows man!!!Evil

"Nicknack, I'm in a shoe in space, on my computer, in my house, with a cup of coffee, in't that something." - Fly Safe PopPaddi. o7

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