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Here it starts... First gaming tablet hitting market...

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Akirei Scytale
Okami Syndicate
#21 - 2013-02-26 22:59:18 UTC
Tablets are a ****** interface for gaming, to be completely frank. They could start a new, console-like market, with subgenres of games built to operate on simple control schemes on a touch-screen interface, but they aren't going to replace PCs.

The mouse + keyboard combination is pretty much ideal for gaming. It allows an absolutely massive number of buttons to be immediately accessible, and doesn't involve time-consuming gestures or anything of the like. That, and a PC can be high-performance with little worry about overheating. Cases are spacious and generally designed for ideal airflow. Tablets have to be extremely slim by design, meaning closely packed together components. This means anything taking full advantage of the hardware is going to put that hardware at risk during extended use.
Lupus Borealis
The Lupus Borealis
#22 - 2013-02-26 22:59:56 UTC
Mr Epeen wrote:
When a gaming tablet can beat my dual 27" monitors for gaming beauty, I will be the first in line.

Mr Epeen Cool

Well, I can connect my working tablet to my 40 inch TV, without any wires.

This is the future, like it or not. Bitter vets most likely will not like it, but who cares Bear
stoicfaux
#23 - 2013-02-26 23:02:22 UTC
Forum Clone 77777 wrote:
Lupus Borealis wrote:
I have always hated PC computers Twisted

You always hated Personal Computer computers?

Think about how stupid it was of you to say that.

Anyway, tablets will never live up to the standards of a PC.

However, PC standards will drop down to the level of tablets.
/einstein

Meaning, if "every" game requires the console market to be successful, then every game will be a console port, which fits nicely in the razer's niche.


Pon Farr Memorial: once every 7 years, all the carebears in high-sec must PvP or they will be temp-banned.

Lupus Borealis
The Lupus Borealis
#24 - 2013-02-26 23:04:17 UTC
Akirei Scytale wrote:

The mouse + keyboard combination is pretty much ideal for gaming.

Console market is and has been much bigger than PC gaming market, with basically gaming pad only.

In future you control games with 3d gestures, and communicate with voice commands and speach.
Jensaro Koraka
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#25 - 2013-02-26 23:05:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Jensaro Koraka
Lupus Borealis wrote:
http://liliputing.com/2013/02/razer-edge-windows-8-gaming-tablet-up-for-pre-order-march-1st.html

Beats my laptop!

I like this. Sorry fellow nerds, but I have always hated PC computers Twisted

Now you can use the world's least powerful gaming computer, heaviest and most uncomfortable controller and smallest monitor all at once! What will they think of next?

Lupus Borealis wrote:
In future you control games with 3d gestures, and communicate with voice commands and speach.

If the Kinect is any indication, that future is highly unlikely.

Lupus Borealis wrote:
I like this. Sorry fellow nerds, but I have always hated PC computers Twisted

It's by definition impossible for a nerd to hate PCs.

"Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." -H.L. Mencken

Devious Relation
Obsessive Compulsive Disasters
#26 - 2013-02-26 23:09:47 UTC
It looks like a sanitry towel with a screen ShockedShockedShockedShocked
Lupus Borealis
The Lupus Borealis
#27 - 2013-02-26 23:11:23 UTC
For example Google is developing system where you can type, without keyboad. Just type air with your fingers. The system recognizes only those finger movements that are the same when typing on keyboard.

There are dozens of different applications coming out in few years, that can enable gaming without real gaming pad, mouse or keyboard.

Tablet gaming will be handheld gaming, but it's just one new way of gaming.

Question is, how may old games can evolve into the future and stay alive in new platforms and systems?
Arronicus
State War Academy
Caldari State
#28 - 2013-02-26 23:17:48 UTC
Hahahahahahahaha. What a joke.

Titles you will enjoy on gaming Tablets: Gorilla arm 1. Gorilla arm 2. Gorilla arm 3. Battletoads.
Arronicus
State War Academy
Caldari State
#29 - 2013-02-26 23:19:04 UTC
Lupus Borealis wrote:



In future you control games with dance pad with multi directional arrows on it.



Fixed for accuracy.
Devious Relation
Obsessive Compulsive Disasters
#30 - 2013-02-26 23:19:33 UTC
Lets be honest. the best way to control a game is keyboard and mouse. This is why when halo 1 yes the original halo was released which amtched pc gamers and console gamers in joint servers there wre so many tears they had to seperate the two. PC gamers were dominating.

3 modes of the "gaming tablet"

1 - as a tablet - if someone wants a tablet they will buy one!

2 - as a laptop - ummm I have a laptop which is quite good tyvm, why buy another.

3 - as the worlds biggest game controller - um yeah, even the old N64 controlers were more erganomicaly designed.


Dislike the whole idea.

The reason people love pc's and I myself would never change is you can upgrade parts yourself, troubleshoot issues easily with their operating systems - not rely on a type of android app to be hotfixed.

PC's are currently and will remain for a long time the only serious gaming machine.
Arronicus
State War Academy
Caldari State
#31 - 2013-02-26 23:20:29 UTC
Jensaro Koraka wrote:


Lupus Borealis wrote:
I like this. Sorry fellow nerds, but I have always hated PC computers Twisted

It's by definition impossible for a nerd to hate PCs.


I'm getting the feeling here that lupus is screenshotting each post he makes, uploading it to instagram, and then posting it on his facebook with the tag 'omg im such a nerd'
Lupus Borealis
The Lupus Borealis
#32 - 2013-02-26 23:23:20 UTC
Sorry to dissapoint you, I do not have Facebook or Instagram(wtf is that)? accounts. Sadly I am old fart, I still use IRC and irssi. Lol
Jensaro Koraka
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#33 - 2013-02-26 23:33:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Jensaro Koraka
Lupus Borealis wrote:
Question is, how may old games can evolve into the future and stay alive in new platforms and systems?

I can evolve just fine, but it's not evolution if it's worse than existing technology. Some of the stuff you're talking about like kinect-like control systems are technologically impossible. I've tried with the Wii and Kinect at my 13 year old cousin's house. Neither one actually works. They're pretty much impossible to precisely control a game with. They're every bit the useless gimmick the power glove was when I was a kid. Even the things that aren't limited by technology will still not take over gaming because they serve as an alternative, not a replacement. They're not even targeted at the gamer market. They're targeted at non-gamers who play games once in a while. Do you really think anyone but a professional athlete is going to use a Kinect for 6 hours straight? My arms hurt after 1. Do you really think some ridiculous air keyboard can tell apart keys that are millimeters away from each other when the Kinect/Wii can't even tell when I stick my whole arm out? Do you think complex games like MMOs can be played with 6 buttons or even no buttons? Are your fingers small enough to poke just 1 ship on the overview on a touch pad? Mine sure aren't. The only people with fingers like that have ages measured in months. Nothing will ever replace the traditional desktop, regardless of what new fads come and go.

"Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." -H.L. Mencken

Nariya Kentaya
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#34 - 2013-02-26 23:33:58 UTC
Lupus Borealis wrote:
Sorry to dissapoint you, I do not have Facebook or Instagram(wtf is that)? accounts. Sadly I am old fart, I still use IRC and irssi. Lol

your not missing anything, the only reason i have a facebook is because my cousin made on and told me i have to live with it, the only uses it sees is when scheduling D&D groups with buddies, or adding people who "know me" to the block list because of the annoying spam.

IMO, social media sites are annoying and serve as nothing more than a distraction for the less-inteligent of a populace to be subjected to advertising even when tlaking with their "friends".

i prefer eve for all my online communication, and occasionaly email (but that gets so hard when i switch my email with a new one every 13 days)
Lupus Borealis
The Lupus Borealis
#35 - 2013-02-26 23:35:14 UTC
Jensaro Koraka wrote:
Lupus Borealis wrote:
Question is, how may old games can evolve into the future and stay alive in new platforms and systems?

I can evolve just fine, but it's not evolution if it's worse than existing technology. Some of the stuff you're talking about like kinect-like control systems are technologically impossible. I've tried with the Wii and Kinect at my 13 year old cousin's house. Neither one actually works. They're pretty much impossible to precisely control a game with. They're every bit the useless gimmick the power glove was when I was a kid. Even the things that aren't limited by technology will still not take over gaming because they serve as an alternative, not a replacement. They're not even targeted at the gamer market. They're targeted at non-gamers who play games once in a while. Do you really think anyone but a professional athlete is going to use a Kinect for 6 hours straight? My arms hurt after 1. Do you really think some ridiculous air keyboard can tell apart keys that are millimeters away from each other when the Kinect/Wii can't even tell when I stick my whole arm out? Do you think complex games like MMOs can be played with 6 buttons or even no buttons? Nothing will ever replace the traditional desktop, regardless of what new fads come and go.

That ridiculous keyboard gets under 7% fail rate after 3 hours of use. Pretty nice from product that isnt even close to be released.
Jensaro Koraka
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#36 - 2013-02-26 23:37:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Jensaro Koraka
Lupus Borealis wrote:

That ridiculous keyboard gets under 7% fail rate after 3 hours of use. Pretty nice from product that isnt even close to be released.

That's not possible. It's not even possible to move one's fingers that precisely without tactile feedback even if the tech to measure it existed. Let's see some proof. Even in the unlikely event that it is true, my physical keyboard gets a 0% fail rate after well over 6 hours. It also costs less and doesn't make you look silly.

James Amril-Kesh wrote:
"Razer."
Never understood why they spelled it that way.

Because spelling like a kindergartner is kewl.

"Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." -H.L. Mencken

Nariya Kentaya
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#37 - 2013-02-27 02:49:33 UTC
Jensaro Koraka wrote:
Lupus Borealis wrote:

That ridiculous keyboard gets under 7% fail rate after 3 hours of use. Pretty nice from product that isnt even close to be released.

That's not possible. It's not even possible to move one's fingers that precisely without tactile feedback even if the tech to measure it existed. Let's see some proof. Even in the unlikely event that it is true, my physical keyboard gets a 0% fail rate after well over 6 hours. It also costs less and doesn't make you look silly.

James Amril-Kesh wrote:
"Razer."
Never understood why they spelled it that way.

Because spelling like a kindergartner is kewl.

not only that, in many MMO's, and games in general, that 7% fail rate can and WILL get you killed, would prefer my old reliable keybaord.
NEONOVUS
Mindstar Technology
Goonswarm Federation
#38 - 2013-02-27 03:24:19 UTC
Arronicus wrote:
Hahahahahahahaha. What a joke.

Titles you will enjoy on gaming Tablets: Gorilla arm 1. Gorilla arm 2. Gorilla arm 3. Battletoads.

More like every x86 game produced.
But that is an actual useful measure rather than the knee jerk crap espoused so commonly here on GD.

Now what makes me curious is the dock and lifespan of the tablet when the screen is off.
Because if combine this with Google Glasses (or just mod your own out of current huds like a good tinker) then you could effect far more useful systems.
The battery will be the biggest issue, then heat management.
Setaceous
Nexus Prima
#39 - 2013-02-27 03:26:14 UTC
Jensaro Koraka wrote:
Lupus Borealis wrote:

That ridiculous keyboard gets under 7% fail rate after 3 hours of use. Pretty nice from product that isnt even close to be released.

That's not possible. It's not even possible to move one's fingers that precisely without tactile feedback even if the tech to measure it existed. Let's see some proof. Even in the unlikely event that it is true, my physical keyboard gets a 0% fail rate after well over 6 hours. It also costs less and doesn't make you look silly.

James Amril-Kesh wrote:
"Razer."
Never understood why they spelled it that way.

Because spelling like a kindergartner is kewl.

Kewl? No. More like Xtreme.
Ai Shun
#40 - 2013-02-27 03:28:34 UTC
Lupus Borealis wrote:
Beats my laptop!


Doesn't beat mine Lol

But it is a nice looking device. And whilst it won't replace a desktop / laptop for me, I wonder what they're doing with heat, etc. and how comfortable it will be to play in the background while watching TV / catching some sun / etc.

Can never have too many toys, right?