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Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 170
Camios Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic Likes received: 170	#81 - 2011-10-27 17:56:27 UTC \| Edited by: Camios Reminds me a bit of the Vaygr battlecruiser in homeworld 2. Nice. But the real meat will be in the devblog that describes their stats and their role.

Doomheim 261
Trainwreck McGee Doomheim Likes received: 261	#82 - 2011-10-27 17:56:56 UTC 1 NERD BONER CCP Trainwreck - Weekend Custodial Engineer / CCP Necrogoats foot stool

Splinter Foundation 1,770
Pak Narhoo Splinter Foundation Likes received: 1,770	#83 - 2011-10-27 18:05:47 UTC 1 I love the wire rendering! More! Doing some stuff myself in 3D with C4D. I'm just wondering what happened to all the triangles? I'm used to see tri's in game models, how come you are able to work so "clean" now?

Cruor Angelicus 4,316
Xercodo Cruor Angelicus Likes received: 4,316	#84 - 2011-10-27 18:09:10 UTC 1 Camios wrote: Reminds me a bit of the Vaygr battlecruiser in homeworld 2. Nice. But the real meat will be in the devblog that describes their stats and their role. reminds me more of the hiigaran destroyer The Drake is a Lie

Aliastra Gallente Federation 106
Silath Slyver Silverpine Aliastra Gallente Federation Likes received: 106	#85 - 2011-10-27 18:09:35 UTC It's not a giant blue blob of poo! Wewt! That's more like what Gallente design should be ;) Interested to see the Amarr and Caldari designs in the future as well!

Lonely Trek 22
Phantomania Lonely Trek Likes received: 22	#86 - 2011-10-27 18:18:02 UTC I hope- Caldari Naga or Caldari Naga but I still believe this will be the Oracle, as its the winner of the second contest!

State War Academy Caldari State 315
Kassasis Dakkstromri State War Academy Caldari State Likes received: 315	#87 - 2011-10-27 18:18:23 UTC 1 Ugly as a Frog... As such I fully expect the Caldari one to look like a Squid CCP you are bad at EVE... Stop potential silliness ~ Solo Wulf

Ranger 1

Ranger Corp

Vae. Victis.

Likes received: 6,345

#88 - 2011-10-27 18:25:35 UTC

Mors Sanctitatis wrote:

The original design has MUCH better proportion. The remake has made it look too chunky and turned the overall shape into a blob.

The front isn't as defined, and the same with the rear of the ship. The nose is now too fat, the extra engines nacelles (four instead of two on the original) make the rear end too fat and heavy. The additional front mounting hardpoints are overdone, making the nose flat and pug-like (a horrible thing) compared to the original.

Please fix it. You followed the Tornado's original intent much more precisely. Do the same for the Talos.

The original design was also a very lightly armed destroyer/surveillance vessel.

The front logically would have to be thickened to support the over sized gun mounts (the original model had no hard points on the nose section). Thicker does not mean "pug-like". Smile

The same goes for the more powerful look of the rear and losing the (admittedly nice) wingy bits back there on the original.

For a design that took a fast Destroyer and scaled it up to a fast Battle Cruiser with over sized guns, I'd say the changes look pretty logical. Perhaps they should make it a point to emphasis that it is "based on" the original design, but scaled up to better fit it's role in game.

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Anna Lynne Larson

Sebiestor Tribe

Minmatar Republic

Likes received: 14

#89 - 2011-10-27 18:48:39 UTC

Ranger 1 wrote:

Mors Sanctitatis wrote:

Agreed. ON that note, I have to ask (if it hasn't been asked already): The contest rules (which I went over after the statement that they were borrowing this design) said that any design submitted was the express property of the entrant as long as they followed the guidelines, so did you guys contact lobaud and ask him to let you base the design off of it?

Also does this mean the 2nd and 3rd place winners/the second CCP-run contest are all meaningless?

Tiger's Spirit

Templars of the Shadows

Likes received: 141

#90 - 2011-10-27 18:53:08 UTC

[+] Talos
[+|n] bcLargeHybridTurretCPUNeedBonus
[+|n] bcLargeHybridTurretCapacitorNeedBonus
[+|n] bcLargeHybridTurretPowerNeedBonus
[+|n] leadershipCpuBonus
[+|n] massFactor
[+|n] shipHybridDamageBonusBC2
[+|n] shipStasisWebSpeedFactorBonusBC1
[+] agility: 0.56
[+] armorEmDamageResonance: 0.5
[+] armorExplosiveDamageResonance: 0.9
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[+] armorUniformity: 0.75
[+] baseWarpSpeed: 1.0
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[+] capacity: 600.0
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[+] fwLpKill: 200.0
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[+] hp: 2597.0
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[+] medSlots: 4.0
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[+] powerOutput: 1150.0
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Fon Revedhort

Monks of War

Likes received: 1,098

#91 - 2011-10-27 18:54:20 UTC

CCP, do you remember yourlself nerfing 90% webs back then?

Do you recall your words?

"basically, the fight is over once anyone gets into a webrange".

Ok, you've replaced the old unltimate web with an ultimate scrambler, which - guess what - brings an end to a fight just as effectively as the 90% web before. Moreover, now you decide it's a good ideat to...

... give a 90% web to a ship which is basically free.

So 90% aren't overpowered anymore. huh? What's changed?

I for one can't come up with anything rather than suppose you're:

a) cluesless
b) trolling
c) both of the above

"Being supporters of free speech and free and open [CSM] elections... we removed Fon Revedhort from eligibility". CCP, April 2013.

Fon Revedhort

Monks of War

Likes received: 1,098

#92 - 2011-10-27 18:54:31 UTC | Edited by: Fon Revedhort

CCP, do you remember yourself nerfing 90% webs back then?

Do you recall your own words?

"basically, the fight is over once anyone gets into a webrange".

Ok, you've replaced the old unltimate web with an ultimate scrambler, which - guess what - brings an end to a fight just as effectively as the 90% web before. Moreover, now you decide it's a good idea to...

... give a 90% web to a ship which is basically free.

So 90% webs aren't overpowered anymore. huh? What's changed?

I for one can't come up with anything rather than suppose you're:

a) clueless
b) trolling
c) both of the above

P.S.
FFS, get your forums fixed.

"Being supporters of free speech and free and open [CSM] elections... we removed Fon Revedhort from eligibility". CCP, April 2013.

Princess Bride

SharkNado

Likes received: 666

#93 - 2011-10-27 19:02:31 UTC | Edited by: Princess Bride

Ranger 1 wrote:

For a design that took a fast Destroyer and scaled it up to a fast Battle Cruiser with over sized guns, I'd say the changes look pretty logical.

For me, design logic does not equate to design beauty. It may "make sense" to have 5 large barrels lashed sideways to the top of the hull to accommodate the oversized weapon turrets. But that does not make it look pretty. It's like welding three fifty gallon drums to the roof of a Ferrari because of the increased fuel capacity necessitated by the larger engine...then saying it still looks good because it's logical.

Or makes "cents". They could rename it "Sixty-five Dollars". I count 4 rolls of quarters and 5 rolls of dimes melded into the model.

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Anna Lynne Larson

Sebiestor Tribe

Minmatar Republic

Likes received: 14

#94 - 2011-10-27 19:10:10 UTC

Tiger's Spirit wrote:

Or for players who don't want to translate;

Gallente - Talos
Skills required: Gallente Cruiser III, Battlecruisers II

Bonuses:
Role Bonus:
50% reduction to Large Hybrid Turret CPU requirements
50% reduction to Large Hybrid Turret cap usage
95% reduction to Large Hybrid Turret powergrid requirements

Battlecruisers skill bonus:
10% bonus to velocity factor of Stasis Webifiers per level
5% increase to Large Hybrid Turret damage per level

Shield HP: 2111.0
Resistances: EM/Ex/K/T 0/50/40/20
Armor HP: 2272.0
Resistances: EM/Ex/K/T 50/10/35/35
Structure HP: 2597.0 (of course, it's a Gallente ship)
Resistances: 0/0/0/0

Capacitor: 3100GJ
Cargohold: 600m3
Drone Bandwidth: 25Mbit/s
Drone Bay: 25m3
Max Locked targets: 7
Max Lock range: 70km
Max Velocity: 210m/s
Magnetometric Sensor strength: 20
Scan resolution: 230
Sig radius: 200

CPU: 400tf
Powergrid: 1150mW
High slots: 8.0
Turret Slots: 8.0
Medium slots: 4.0
Low slots: 5.0
400 Calibration and 3 rig slots

Razin

The Scope

Likes received: 299

#95 - 2011-10-27 19:12:00 UTC | Edited by: Razin

Princess Bride wrote:

Ranger 1 wrote:

For a design that took a fast Destroyer and scaled it up to a fast Battle Cruiser with over sized guns, I'd say the changes look pretty logical.

For me, design logic does not equate to design beauty. It may "make sense" to have 5 large barrels lashed sideways to the top of the hull to accommodate the oversized weapon turrets. But that does not make it look pretty. It's like welding three fifty gallon drums to the hood of a Ferrari because of the increased fuel capacity necessitated by the larger engine...then saying it still looks good because it makes sense.

Or makes "cents". They could rename it "Sixty-five Dollars". I count 4 rolls of quarters and 5 rolls of dimes melded into the model.

Retаrded car analogies are retаrded.

Why not mount a minigun on that Ferrari?

Immemorial Coalescence Administration Immemorial Coalescence 2,007
Akrasjel Lanate Immemorial Coalescence Administration Immemorial Coalescence Likes received: 2,007	#96 - 2011-10-27 19:17:55 UTC CCP Guard wrote: We were going to put the blog out tomorrow...but why wait? Your favorite Community team brings you more news of another player created masterpiece jumping into the game in the upcoming Winter Expansion. I can't wait to get into my very own Talos. How about you? It's beautiful. CEO of Lanate Industries Citizen of Solitude

Hentes Zsemle

Garoun Investment Bank

Gallente Federation

Likes received: 20

#97 - 2011-10-27 19:20:07 UTC

I like the design, and don't care how much it resembles the "original" design. Im satisfied ccp didn't choose the spacefish.
As with all gallente ships, people will either love or hate how they look.

However, if the hybrid changes harvested from the test server data dump are going to be final, this ship is going to be useless for anything but ganking and station camping...just like the current blasterboats.

Seamus Donohue

EVE University

Ivy League

Likes received: 74

#98 - 2011-10-27 19:27:50 UTC

I have a question on the naming convention.

Given that Talos seems to be depicted as a winged creature and that Caldari ships tend to be bird-named, why was it decided to name the Gallente battlecruiser Talos and the Caldari battlecruiser Naga? I would have thought the appropriate naming convention would have been the reverse.

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Tors shibari party 27
TorTorden Tors shibari party Likes received: 27	#99 - 2011-10-27 19:29:12 UTC 1 Day 1, winter expansion. Day 3, HulkaGeddon

Hedion University Amarr Empire 0
Lucilia Mercapone Hedion University Amarr Empire Likes received: 0	#100 - 2011-10-27 19:29:13 UTC Looks great, sounds great can't wait! Finally a great Patch to look forward too. BC 5 ... check All cruiser to 3+ ... check large weapon specs to 4 ... damn only 3/8 better work on a new skillplan .

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