EVE General Discussion

Um, from the email:


I still would like to get folks to answer the questions I posed above. How much are Japanese people paying now for EVE, including taxes?

1) Yes, apparently Nexon has an extremely poor record when it comes to security issues, almost on the scale of sony's security breach on a monthly basis from what i hear (that may be a little exagerated but that's what im hearing).
2) Apparently Nexon are notorious for not following the international exchange rates and usually use a very bad rate of exchange plus charge for the service.

I have to say this is a pretty poor way to treat the Japanese players. Why force them to use Nexon?

Seems CCP didn't do much googling on Nexon with ragards to security, even after a quick search it appears they have had quite a long history of security breaches.

I especially like this one Nexon Isn't Worst Company In America, Yet ... no wonder the Japanese players are concerned.

Good luck to our Japanese brethren in fighting this.

Hmmm, I believe if you purchase GTC for example from Shattered Crystal, then they are legally obliged to honour them regardless if you are in Japan or not.

Bad move from CCP. They shoulnd't force fellow Japanese players to pay through NEXON. Do they really believe they're gonna get new players in with a company with such a reputation? In any case, they risk losing the customers they already have.
CCP management decision = screw suscribers.

Feh. Nexon. I seem to remember playing one of their RPGs, years ago. I had some fun, and paid them a bit of money... and then stopped when my account was banned for 'suspicious activity' out of the blue with no reason given, and my appeal denied with no explanation of why I was banned. I would not do business with them again; even with such a draconian security policy that leads to so many false positives that permaban ordinary users for no reason, they still get hacked and robbed all the time, and ordinary users who've dealt with them end up victims of identity theft.

Hello everyone,

Please have a look at this post by CCP Navigator that hopefully will answer some of your questions.

To Two Step,

As one of Japanese players, let me detail this concern.



NEXON seems to be notorious for security breach and poor treatment for victim. I've never used their service, but a lot of friends and my blog readers says NEXON have a bad security and let the crackers hack their accounts again and again.

I don't know whether it's true or not, but at least it's true they let Japanese players have security concern.

Their company policy is "If you got hacked your NEXON account, it's YOUR problem and not our fault REGARDLESS THE SITUATION. So don't expect me any compensation for that. If you don't like our way, then just don't use our service.".

This is core reason why some players hate and fear using their payment service. They sell users their virtual currencies "NEXON points" and with them the users can pay various MMO's subscription. In case of EVE, NEXON is going to sell PLEX for the points and CCP is going to force it to all residence in Japan, regardless of nationality.

I'd paid my subscription via credit card for many years without no problem. I don't need Japanese-speaking customer support for that. If NEXON is just another payment option, I'd rather welcome that. CCP is, however, going to force all Japanese residents to use them, so I would be forced to sign up for services I don't even need.




We pays in dollar. With current excange rate, it's USD 14.95 = roughly 1200-1300 yen.
Problem is, NEXON allow payment by selling PLEX for their own virtual cash. It means NEXON can set how much PLEX costs in their virtual currencies whatever they want.

This is our another concern about them.

And about buying GTC from shuttered crystal or other sellers are insanely difficult. They need phone confirmation and have timezone problem. I tried before but they coudn't even ring my phone for some technical problem, so I gave up and never used them.

I'm a half retired so not checking my EVE mail very often, so if you guys would like to contact me, hit me on twitter (@Eugene_Roserie). I usually tweet in Japanese but can answer in English.

As an American, i can input that Nexon's handling of almost everything is terrible. They have a variety of good games, however it has become impossible to play any of them for long without having your information stolen, your in game goods stolen, or your account banned for no known reason. Nexon compounds this problem by taking over 1 month to respond to any correspondence or take action on petitions. They also refuse to acknowledge their frequent security breaches, making it so that you never know if you have been compromised or not.

I frankly believe that it is irresponsible to take part in any business with them, from a consumer or corporate standpoint.

There should be an option available to all players to pay without using them.

I"m not dismissing this out of hand, but maybe I"m missing something.

I see a lot of references to people's characters getting hacked and drained... but I"m not seeing much that suggests there is a problem with a customers CC information being compromised.

These are two different things entirely.

Perhaps I've just missed seeing it (certainly possible).

Keep in mind, the Nexon ID is an ADDITIONAL layer on top of the normal CCP security for your characters and account access.



Emphasis mine.

If there has been a large problem with CC information being hacked, there may be cause for concern.

If there has NOT a large problem with CC information being hacked (as opposed to someone taking your character for a joy ride) then this seems like a non-issue, as they will still have to deal with CCP's log in and security procedures.

Edit: I admit I am a bit skeptical of the claims that nobody trusts them. The fact that they are far and away one of the biggest distributors out there speaks otherwise.