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Bitten.-alliance home system J104846 ripe for invasion

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Rroff
Antagonistic Tendencies
#41 - 2013-02-24 22:07:59 UTC
ExookiZ wrote:
you know I never even looked at the date, so definitely my bad. I cant seem to find the most recent fight though :\


I'm assuming theres a bit more to it than simply round 2 as bitten has 2 dozen capitals in system.
Sorany
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#42 - 2013-02-25 00:50:25 UTC
note taken, HK will be dropping dreads in over the next few days/weeks - pay no attention to them.

Cool
Fradle
Collapsed Out
Pandemic Legion
#43 - 2013-02-25 01:29:44 UTC
Sorany wrote:
note taken, HK will be dropping dreads in over the next few days/weeks - pay no attention to them.

Cool

Can you bring me some cookies and milk? They won't let me have any until I clean my POS :(
Jack Miton
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#44 - 2013-02-25 03:40:31 UTC
Tecear wrote:
Confirming Bite me. does not know how to fight back and has no batphones.


not batphoning is a good thing...
bat phoning in WHs has got to stop. all it's doing is making sure fights don't happen.

There is no Bob.

Stuck In Here With Me:  http://sihwm.blogspot.com.au/

Down the Pipe:  http://feeds.feedburner.com/CloakyScout

Brinxter
Bite Me inc
#45 - 2013-02-25 05:31:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Brinxter
Jack Miton wrote:
Tecear wrote:
Confirming Bite me. does not know how to fight back and has no batphones.


not batphoning is a good thing...
bat phoning in WHs has got to stop. all it's doing is making sure fights don't happen.



Some men just want to watch the world burn.
Bane Nucleus
Dark Venture Corporation
Kitchen Sinkhole
#46 - 2013-02-25 07:23:39 UTC
Jack Miton wrote:

not batphoning is a good thing...
bat phoning in WHs has got to stop. all it's doing is making sure fights don't happen.


This.

No trolling please

Nix Anteris
The Dark Space Initiative
Scary Wormhole People
#47 - 2013-02-25 07:57:42 UTC
Jack Miton wrote:

bat phoning in WHs has got to stop. all it's doing is making sure fights don't happen.

Confirming your corp doesn't want fights to happen.
Brinxter
Bite Me inc
#48 - 2013-02-25 08:30:39 UTC
Nix Anteris wrote:
Jack Miton wrote:

bat phoning in WHs has got to stop. all it's doing is making sure fights don't happen.

Confirming your corp doesn't want fights to happen.


Although i dont know Jack, and he could be one of the decision makers, i think its safe to assume a lot of people have a bad taste in their mouth about what happened.
And they should, because it was pretty pathetic.

All the same, i wont hold it against a corps individual members.
Xtrah
Overload This
#49 - 2013-02-25 10:05:12 UTC
From our point of view, Bitten. wouldn't have attacked Arctic Light POSes in the middle of the night if fights was really what they were after, so we assumed it's an eviction attempt. I'd rather secure future fights by stopping a single fight from happening, any day. You can "confirm" batphones were involved in this, but Arctic Light seems to do fine when they are on their own too.

"Does not know how to fight" - EVE Kill
"Can't handle anything themselves" - Transmission Lost KB

We've also never experienced Bitten taking a fair fight unless they have an edge we don't know about. If it's either putting a couple of Orcas through a hole, so whoever wants to fight them through their hole accidentally collapses themselves on their side - or the more recent 8-10 Bhaalgorns logged off/hidden until the other side commits to a fight. We expected a trap, Bitten's reputation pointed to them never taking such a fight outnumbered in people and resources, especially in someones home system.

Who takes ~15 capitals into someone's home system for a "fight"..?
Jack Miton
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#50 - 2013-02-25 10:12:53 UTC
Nix Anteris wrote:
Jack Miton wrote:

bat phoning in WHs has got to stop. all it's doing is making sure fights don't happen.

Confirming your corp doesn't want fights to happen.

believe me, i voiced my opinion.

There is no Bob.

Stuck In Here With Me:  http://sihwm.blogspot.com.au/

Down the Pipe:  http://feeds.feedburner.com/CloakyScout

Sushi Nardieu
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#51 - 2013-02-25 10:32:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Sushi Nardieu
zzzzzZZZzz

Have you seen the T-lost killmails? It would be embarrassing to lose to that.

The Guns of Knowledge 

Borlag Crendraven
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#52 - 2013-02-25 11:03:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Borlag Crendraven
Xtrah wrote:
From our point of view, Bitten. wouldn't have attacked Arctic Light POSes in the middle of the night if fights was really what they were after, so we assumed it's an eviction attempt. I'd rather secure future fights by stopping a single fight from happening, any day. You can "confirm" batphones were involved in this, but Arctic Light seems to do fine when they are on their own too.

"Does not know how to fight" - EVE Kill
"Can't handle anything themselves" - Transmission Lost KB

We've also never experienced Bitten taking a fair fight unless they have an edge we don't know about. If it's either putting a couple of Orcas through a hole, so whoever wants to fight them through their hole accidentally collapses themselves on their side - or the more recent 8-10 Bhaalgorns logged off/hidden until the other side commits to a fight. We expected a trap, Bitten's reputation pointed to them never taking such a fight outnumbered in people and resources, especially in someones home system.

Who takes ~15 capitals into someone's home system for a "fight"..?


Agreed, Frozen Dawn does bring it and certainly knows how to fight. One of my most memorable fights was against them, a true ballbreaker fight where the standoff lasted for almost an hour before it was finally broken.

http://fcftw.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=14939860

Was a lot more even fight than what the report says.
Bane Nucleus
Dark Venture Corporation
Kitchen Sinkhole
#53 - 2013-02-25 11:09:59 UTC
So attempting to evict Hard Knocks, even though they fight, is ok. However, evicting Arctic Light is a huge no-no because they fight. The line seems a bit blurred at the moment.

No trolling please

Xtrah
Overload This
#54 - 2013-02-25 11:22:24 UTC
Honestly NoHo was never supporting a full eviction of HK, which has been expressed several times. One of the reasons we showed up here was to annoy Tuna. Bitten tears, best tears. Pirate
Brinxter
Bite Me inc
#55 - 2013-02-25 11:27:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Brinxter
Xtrah wrote:
From our point of view, Bitten. wouldn't have attacked Arctic Light POSes in the middle of the night if fights was really what they were after, so we assumed it's an eviction attempt. I'd rather secure future fights by stopping a single fight from happening, any day. You can "confirm" batphones were involved in this, but Arctic Light seems to do fine when they are on their own too.

"Does not know how to fight" - EVE Kill
"Can't handle anything themselves" - Transmission Lost KB

We've also never experienced Bitten taking a fair fight unless they have an edge we don't know about. If it's either putting a couple of Orcas through a hole, so whoever wants to fight them through their hole accidentally collapses themselves on their side - or the more recent 8-10 Bhaalgorns logged off/hidden until the other side commits to a fight. We expected a trap, Bitten's reputation pointed to them never taking such a fight outnumbered in people and resources, especially in someones home system.

Who takes ~15 capitals into someone's home system for a "fight"..?



Dear sir,

You do not decide what happens and where, you can merely attempt to influence the outcome.
Seriously, if someone fights, an eviction (even IF it was that) wont change a thing.
If anything, it helps keep someone on their toes.

In my personal opinion, "you lot" have all grown fat and lazy, and could use a good culling.
However, i have complete faith in our management, so even if our views differ, they lead, i follow.
Sorany
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#56 - 2013-02-25 11:33:11 UTC
Fradle wrote:
Sorany wrote:
note taken, HK will be dropping dreads in over the next few days/weeks - pay no attention to them.

Cool

Can you bring me some cookies and milk? They won't let me have any until I clean my POS :(


absolutely. never not bring cookies for invasions.
Sorany
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#57 - 2013-02-25 11:39:28 UTC
Bane Nucleus wrote:
So attempting to evict Hard Knocks, even though they fight, is ok. However, evicting Arctic Light is a huge no-no because they fight. The line seems a bit blurred at the moment.


qfe
Deminision
Voidlords
#58 - 2013-02-25 11:41:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Deminision
Brinxter wrote:
Xtrah wrote:
From our point of view, Bitten. wouldn't have attacked Arctic Light POSes in the middle of the night if fights was really what they were after, so we assumed it's an eviction attempt. I'd rather secure future fights by stopping a single fight from happening, any day. You can "confirm" batphones were involved in this, but Arctic Light seems to do fine when they are on their own too.

"Does not know how to fight" - EVE Kill
"Can't handle anything themselves" - Transmission Lost KB

We've also never experienced Bitten taking a fair fight unless they have an edge we don't know about. If it's either putting a couple of Orcas through a hole, so whoever wants to fight them through their hole accidentally collapses themselves on their side - or the more recent 8-10 Bhaalgorns logged off/hidden until the other side commits to a fight. We expected a trap, Bitten's reputation pointed to them never taking such a fight outnumbered in people and resources, especially in someones home system.

Who takes ~15 capitals into someone's home system for a "fight"..?



Dear sir,

You do not decide what happens and where, you can merely attempt to influence the outcome.
Seriously, if someone fights, an eviction (even IF it was that) wont change a thing.
If anything, it helps keep someone on their toes.

In my personal opinion, "you lot" have all grown fat and lazy, and could use a good culling.
However, i have complete faith in our management, so even if our views differ, they lead, i follow.


I would welcome any attempt of a culling, would be a nice change of pace :) I will prepare cookies and milk for your visit!
Nix Anteris
The Dark Space Initiative
Scary Wormhole People
#59 - 2013-02-25 12:08:04 UTC
Rroff wrote:
bitten has 2 dozen capitals in system.


OK...

Xtrah wrote:
Who takes ~15 capitals into someone's home system for a "fight"..?


Going in the right direction, but not there yet...

So to adjust the question above slightly: "Who takes X many capitals to a system where the locals are known to have greater than 2X capitals there?" You claim it's not people looking for a fight?

Xtrah wrote:
From our point of view, Bitten. wouldn't have attacked Arctic Light POSes in the middle of the night if fights was really what they were after, so we assumed it's an eviction attempt.


At the risk of divulging much coveted intel. They were trying to keep us out. We were trying to get in. We attacked when we got in.

Borlag Crendraven wrote:

Agreed, Frozen Dawn does bring it and certainly knows how to fight. One of my most memorable fights was against them, a true ballbreaker fight where the standoff lasted for almost an hour before it was finally broken.


Everyone is aware of how fights against large corporations or alliances go. Unless it's just us this happens to?

As the aggressor, you form up, and on a good day you have a subcap fleet of around 15-20 people, and a single capital if you want to go back out the way you came, 3 if you commit. As the defender you have an approximately similar subcap fleet, but you get 10+ caps. That's how it works right?

We know if we try and fight Arctic Light with a "wormholes worth" of ships, we're just going to get cap blobbed, we've done it before. So we attempt to level the playing field hoping our super secret tactics lack of pants will give us the advantage.

And we're FINE with that. If you want to cap blob, that's cool, that's your prerogative. But this seems to be a big bucket of tears because we TRIED TO FIGHT. I'm deeply sorry that your self imposed W-Space politics forced you to call in help from all angles because double our numbers wasn't enough.

Brinxter wrote:
All the same, i wont hold it against a corps individual members.

Don't misunderstand me. Me and Jack have a long and friendly history. I'm not pointing a finger at him, I'm simply waving it in the general direction of his associates.

I can only imagine the W-Space Circle Jerk Channel.

Arctic Light> Guys, Bitten are here with half our numbers.
AHARM> Hmm, you might have to fight them, we'll get rolling to ensure the fight is as one sided as possible. With any luck you wont have to fight them at all!
Norcorp> HAI GAYS! WE LIVE IN A WORMHOLES
Brinxter
Bite Me inc
#60 - 2013-02-25 12:13:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Brinxter
Yeah Nix, the sentiment is shared i guess.
Cant wait for round two though, or is it three, meh who cares!

Seeing the OP in retrospect, it got our hopes up for an epic fight, and it was a little dissapointing to see you guys go running back to your circle jerk as soon as you had any doubt of less then a win.
Believe it or not, we never had you outgunned, we didnt even hope to match your numbers, but we sure had you outclassed.