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Saer Fasire
#1 - 2013-02-23 11:28:07 UTC
Now we've all had a chance to play with them, how do you think they perform? What is your favourite and why?
Grutpig Cloudwalker
The Skulls
#2 - 2013-02-23 11:38:01 UTC
Unfortunately Im stuck with the Drake, and hate it more and more.
Looking for alternatives, but as Im skilled in shield tanking and missiles the only other possible Battlecruiser is the Cyclone.
Unfortunately that one is messed up with 5 launchers and 2 turrets, so thats not an option.

Only thing that remains is to stop flying battlecruisers I guess, as I really like missiles over guns. And stop using heavy missiles. Maybe upgrade to a frigate?
Tsai Ashitaka
Caidin Global Academy
#3 - 2013-02-23 12:12:28 UTC
Grutpig Cloudwalker wrote:
the only other possible Battlecruiser is the Cyclone.
Unfortunately that one is messed up with 5 launchers and 2 turrets, so thats not an option.


Are you trolling? The Cyclone is fantastic now. It puts out decent DPS with ANY damage type, is the only non-drone BC to maintain TWO utility highs, and can sport a nasty ASB tank thanks to its rep bonus.
Grutpig Cloudwalker
The Skulls
#4 - 2013-02-23 12:38:31 UTC
Yeah I fitted a Cyclone in EFT now and it looks quite descent except for somewhat poor DPS.
With a large shield booster for me and a large shield transporter for my friends What? of course not stable with both of them active.
Tsukino Stareine
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2013-02-23 13:00:12 UTC
cyclones damage suffers greatly because of the 2 utility highs and only 5 bonuses weapon slots.

prophecy is now my go to droneboat, awesome ship now

Art of Explosions
Orlacc
#6 - 2013-02-23 16:06:55 UTC
Digging the Cyclone. Have not tried it in PvP yet. Really glad to have a Minmatar BC missile ship. Drake is better DPS for me. Clearing WH sites faster. All I use it for.

All I have tried so far.

"Measure Twice, Cut Once."
Kai'tan Adrastia
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2013-02-23 17:26:15 UTC
I'm a new player that has been training Amarr ships and weapon systems for awhile now. I have yet to fly a battlecruiser as I feel that my skills aren't quite where they should be to realize the ship class advantages. I understand the Prophecy is in a good spot now, but I have heard very little about the Harbinger. Is the Harbinger still considered mediocre in comparison to the other BCs? Or is it considered more desirable now? I have been putting a lot of emphasis into maxing my medium energy turret skills, and I would be dissapointed to realize I would be much better off sinking time into drones and another weapon system to competently fly a Prophecy due to the Harbs continued ineptitude.
Liang Nuren
No Salvation
Divine Damnation
#8 - 2013-02-23 18:31:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Liang Nuren
The Harbinger didn't change all that much, aside from losing about 15% of its tank, becoming more of a fat ass, and getting a small CPU boost. It got the same smallish damage buff most other BCs got as well. That is to say, there isn't a whole lot to say about the Binger right now.

-Liang

Ed: Most of the people saying anything nice about the Binger right now are doing things like HPL and no cap booster. That's obviously not really viable.

I'm an idiot, don't mind me.
CJ Dashto
Doomheim
#9 - 2013-02-23 18:47:09 UTC
Grutpig Cloudwalker wrote:
Unfortunately Im stuck with the Drake, and hate it more and more.
Looking for alternatives, but as Im skilled in shield tanking and missiles the only other possible Battlecruiser is the Cyclone.
Unfortunately that one is messed up with 5 launchers and 2 turrets, so thats not an option.

Only thing that remains is to stop flying battlecruisers I guess, as I really like missiles over guns. And stop using heavy missiles. Maybe upgrade to a frigate?


I feel your pain. As a new pilot, we're kind of stuck on the same path for awhile if you want to get the most out of the ships you're flying. I chose Caldari/Missiles too, and HATE the Drake. One of the dumbest looking ships in the game, I can't stand flying it...and it looks even dumber now with the way the launchers are placed on the hull.

3d training for a Cyclone? Sign me up.
Songbird
#10 - 2013-02-23 18:58:19 UTC
[Cyclone, New Setup 1]
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Co-Processor II
Damage Control II

X-Large Ancillary Shield Booster, Navy Cap Booster 400
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I
X5 Prototype Engine Enervator
Warp Scrambler II

Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Inferno Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Inferno Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Inferno Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Inferno Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Inferno Heavy Assault Missile
Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I

Medium Ancillary Current Router I
Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Bay Loading Accelerator I


Hammerhead II x5

Would this work? I mean not as a solo fighter obviously. It shows 636 dps with all 5s and t2 missiles. I think it could be a nice support ship - 1860 speed heated and tanks pretty good as long as you have boosters.
Of course the drake is still one of the better bc's :)
Jerick Ludhowe
Internet Tuff Guys
#11 - 2013-02-23 19:27:57 UTC
Liang Nuren wrote:


Ed: Most of the people saying anything nice about the Binger right now are doing things like HPL and no cap booster. That's obviously not really viable.


Use a 1% grid implant and you can easily get a t2 small cap booster loaded with navy 400s, 1600mm plate, small nuet, and HPL. Almost 70k ehp, and over 850 dps heated with conflag. Maybe not the gank/tank ratio of a ham drake, however it's no doubt viable.
Liang Nuren
No Salvation
Divine Damnation
#12 - 2013-02-23 19:29:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Liang Nuren
I just dislike wasting slot 6. ;-)

-Liang

Ed: And you'll notice that most of the people throwing these fits around do too. That's why we see webs and cap rechargers in that 4th mid.

I'm an idiot, don't mind me.
Ellspeth Murdron
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#13 - 2013-02-24 02:09:08 UTC
I kinda like the ferox... then again ive kinda liked em even back when the wings didnt match...
Danny John-Peter
The Congregation
RAPID HEAVY ROPERS
#14 - 2013-02-24 02:36:28 UTC
Liang Nuren wrote:
I just dislike wasting slot 6. ;-)

-Liang

Ed: And you'll notice that most of the people throwing these fits around do too. That's why we see webs and cap rechargers in that 4th mid.


Theres no reason why Harbs arent viable without an injector, heck you can run the Guns/Point/MWD for like 3 and a half minutes, thats more than enough.
Garviel Tarrant
Beyond Divinity Inc
Shadow Cartel
#15 - 2013-02-24 12:04:19 UTC
Liang Nuren wrote:
The Harbinger didn't change all that much, aside from losing about 15% of its tank, becoming more of a fat ass, and getting a small CPU boost. It got the same smallish damage buff most other BCs got as well. That is to say, there isn't a whole lot to say about the Binger right now.

-Liang

Ed: Most of the people saying anything nice about the Binger right now are doing things like HPL and no cap booster. That's obviously not really viable.


Sure it is, Fit a nos and don't engage anything where you have to fight of too many neuts ^^ (Although of course a NOS doesn't actually fit with HPL and a 1600 plate :P)

BYDI recruitment closed-ish

CMD Ishikawa
New Eden Public Security Section 9
#16 - 2013-02-25 04:32:10 UTC
Tried the Myrmidon and I love it so far, got much better with the increase in the bandwith, it can use four sentries now, melted everything in the missions I did with mine.

Got a Prophecy, but haven't used it yet.
Trinkets friend
Sudden Buggery
Sending Thots And Players
#17 - 2013-02-25 07:49:54 UTC
A dual rep 1600 plate Prophecy is meaty bait now, especially with a MAAR. No real DPS (lol popguns) but it can tank a DPS cruiser with one MAR, and 2 more with the MAAR, and still has full tackle, cap injector, and 80K EHP buffer, plus as much DPS as the old Prophecy (ie; not much). Active tank bait instead of a dual plate slug.

Or drop the 1600 plate for another DDA and medium guns.

Cyclone you can do a dual prop armour cyclone (think upsized Flabber), a 100MN variant, a XLASB _ LSE buffer-rep variant, etc. The DPS is lower than the old buffer-gank Cyclone, so overall I don't like it quite so much. But the extra low slot makes it a viable armour BC.

~~ Localectomy Blog ~~
Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
#18 - 2013-02-25 08:34:43 UTC
Prophecy = "I want to be a Myrmdion when I grow up!" ... and hey, maybe someday it will even be half as good as one, too.

http://youtu.be/t0q2F8NsYQ0
Radhe Amatin
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2013-02-26 13:04:08 UTC
Katran Luftschreck wrote:
Prophecy = "I want to be a Myrmdion when I grow up!" ... and hey, maybe someday it will even be half as good as one, too.


comparing tier 1 amarr bc with tier 2 gallente bc...great job
Hannott Thanos
Squadron 15
#20 - 2013-02-26 13:26:42 UTC
Radhe Amatin wrote:
Katran Luftschreck wrote:
Prophecy = "I want to be a Myrmdion when I grow up!" ... and hey, maybe someday it will even be half as good as one, too.


comparing tier 1 amarr bc with tier 2 gallente bc...great job



Not realizing there is no tier system in the line of battlecruisers anymore...great job

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