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C5-6 Site Running: Like a Baws
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Paikis
Vapour Holdings
#41 - 2012-11-16 23:44:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Paikis
Jack Miton wrote:
Paikis wrote:
Does anyone ahve a link handy to the BS guide Jack mentions a few times in this thread? I've tried searching with no luck.


https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1808468#post1808468

Ive added it to the OP to cos ive been asked a few times.

EDIT: NFI why it's locked... feel free to ask questions here, or just mail me.


Cheers.

Nothing new there, but it can't hurt to look. Other people have other ideas and you might have been doing something obvious that we've missed.
Terrorfrodo
Interbus Universal
#42 - 2012-11-29 01:56:18 UTC
Do you warp all the ships to zero into the site? What about bumping? I imagine that if a dread hits the carrier, it will float around for minutes, not hitting anything, maybe even drift out of refitting range...

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Matuk Grymwal
Collapsed Out
Pandemic Legion
#43 - 2012-11-29 03:07:22 UTC
Terrorfrodo wrote:
Do you warp all the ships to zero into the site? What about bumping? I imagine that if a dread hits the carrier, it will float around for minutes, not hitting anything, maybe even drift out of refitting range...
Yes, although generally everything after the first carrier warps to the carrier at zero, not the site itself. The bumping generally only happens once the dreads leave siege when the site is finished (and bumps are fairly rare).
Jack Miton
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#44 - 2012-11-29 04:34:03 UTC
You can set your default warp to distance to 2k if youre worried.
Like Mat said tho, generally not an issue.

There is no Bob.

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Terrorfrodo
Interbus Universal
#45 - 2012-11-29 09:01:24 UTC
Ok, thanks :)

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Angsty Teenager
Broski North
#46 - 2012-11-29 15:44:01 UTC
Just have the carrier approach the dreads, that will automatically put it at 0km (so if it's inside bumping radius, it will move outwards).

One time my dread did get mega bumped though, like 20km away and I didn't notice until I needed to refit more tank and then freaked out when I wasn't in range. Good thing that sleepers stop shooting the dread if you stop dumping out the dps.
Terrorfrodo
Interbus Universal
#47 - 2012-11-29 17:08:12 UTC
You sure they do? Sounds like a good way to manage aggro when in trouble!

So far I'm running only C1-C4 sites, and never had a reason to stop shooting ;)

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Angsty Teenager
Broski North
#48 - 2012-12-01 21:23:09 UTC
Well, I'm not sure since this only happened once. But that's pretty much what seemed to happen. I turned off the dreads guns to conserve cap, and after ~30 seconds or something, all the sleepers started shooting the carrier--presumably because it was getting RR aggro from repping my loki.
Fred Ono
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#49 - 2013-02-24 19:22:34 UTC
It's been a while since last post but I only just found your guide.
Very helpful, mucho thanks.

Any tips and guidelines on soloing the sites?
Omen Nihilo
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#50 - 2013-02-24 19:47:38 UTC
Don't bother.
Arazel Chainfire
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#51 - 2013-02-25 00:43:59 UTC
Fred Ono wrote:
It's been a while since last post but I only just found your guide.
Very helpful, mucho thanks.

Any tips and guidelines on soloing the sites?


If by solo, you mean you and your 5 alts - follow the steps listed in either post. If by solo you mean 1 pilot... well... you're funny
Angsty Teenager
Broski North
#52 - 2013-02-25 01:29:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Angsty Teenager
Sites can probably be done with 3 characters total. 1 carrier, 1 dread, 1 loki if you really pimp your ****.
Jack Miton
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#53 - 2013-02-25 03:35:38 UTC
Angsty Teenager wrote:
Sites can probably be done with 3 characters total. 1 carrier, 1 dread, 1 loki if you really pimp your ****.


sure, but youre making less than half the isk.

There is no Bob.

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Arazel Chainfire
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#54 - 2013-02-25 03:52:35 UTC
Jack Miton wrote:
Angsty Teenager wrote:
Sites can probably be done with 3 characters total. 1 carrier, 1 dread, 1 loki if you really pimp your ****.


sure, but youre making less than half the isk.


Not if what you do is run the escalation, warp back to the POS, and have the carrier and dread pilots swap (into a new carrier/dread, because it remembers which carrier/dread was used before). So technically you can manage to get a full escalation with just 3 characters... its just... painful. Much better to do it with 4-5 characters.

-Arazel
Angsty Teenager
Broski North
#55 - 2013-02-25 05:34:05 UTC
Jack Miton wrote:
Angsty Teenager wrote:
Sites can probably be done with 3 characters total. 1 carrier, 1 dread, 1 loki if you really pimp your ****.


sure, but youre making less than half the isk.


Not if you finish it in half the time :P

Arazel Chainfire wrote:
Jack Miton wrote:
Angsty Teenager wrote:
Sites can probably be done with 3 characters total. 1 carrier, 1 dread, 1 loki if you really pimp your ****.


sure, but youre making less than half the isk.


Not if what you do is run the escalation, warp back to the POS, and have the carrier and dread pilots swap (into a new carrier/dread, because it remembers which carrier/dread was used before). So technically you can manage to get a full escalation with just 3 characters... its just... painful. Much better to do it with 4-5 characters.

-Arazel


You can't do this, in order to get the 3rd and 4th escalations you need to still have the first dread and first carrier on field.
Fred Ono
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#56 - 2013-02-25 06:18:19 UTC
I see, so minimum number of pilots to effectively run escalations is five ?

1 carrier
2 dreads
1 loki
1 noctis

is the extra carrier worth it for the extra BS spawns?
Jack Miton
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#57 - 2013-02-25 08:33:29 UTC
Fred Ono wrote:
I see, so minimum number of pilots to effectively run escalations is five ?

1 carrier
2 dreads
1 loki
1 noctis

is the extra carrier worth it for the extra BS spawns?


did you actually read the guide?

What you will need:
1 Triage capable Archon.
2 Moros/Revelation dreadnaughts. (No, you can't bring your Phoenix.)
1 Carrier, any race.
1 Loki.
1 Armour and Skirmish capable fleet booster. (Information is also recommended.)
1 Noctis.

There is no Bob.

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Fred Ono
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#58 - 2013-02-25 10:17:20 UTC
Jack Miton wrote:

did you actually read the guide?


Yes I did... hence why my list was exactly what you typed minus the link pilot and asking if the second carrier was worth it.

I was just asking for tips/advice on doing it solo, no need to be aggressive about it.
Jack Miton
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#59 - 2013-02-25 19:46:48 UTC
you need the link pilot

There is no Bob.

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Rroff
Antagonistic Tendencies
#60 - 2013-02-25 20:54:34 UTC
Fred Ono wrote:
Jack Miton wrote:

did you actually read the guide?


Yes I did... hence why my list was exactly what you typed minus the link pilot and asking if the second carrier was worth it.

I was just asking for tips/advice on doing it solo, no need to be aggressive about it.


Don't think he was being agressive as such - Jack has pretty much cut it back to the barebones so what he lists is basically the minimum to make it worthwhile and efficient - sure you may be able to come up with some variations on the theme with experience but thats another matter.