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Ann133566
Doomheim
#1 - 2011-10-27 16:34:21 UTC
My corp is currentlyy fighting a hi-sec war against against a corp that seems to be killboard padders. At first we were all up for the fight and made a few plans and tried to lure them away from stations and gates. They refused.... We tried to be more direct but neutral remote reppers spoiled out fun. Wha wa suppose to be fun and interesting war, has turned out to be a damp squids fart.

They war decced us, they stick to trade centres like rens, they refuse to engage away from the stations and they have some corp neutral reps. I couldn't give a sh*t that they are KB padders, part of the fun was ruining there score. But remote repping is getting to be a pain. My corp mates have quickly losing interest in the war... can't blame them. Sort-it-out CCP!
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sHaKeDoWn..
#2 - 2011-10-27 16:36:49 UTC
LOL
Alara IonStorm
#3 - 2011-10-27 16:40:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Alara IonStorm
You don't Declare War in EVE. You Declare Docking Games.

The sad thing is that you don't get aggression from RR. So they do not have to worry about there position on the fields because the second they are aggressed they can just dock up.
Satav
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2011-10-27 16:41:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Satav
Ann133566 wrote:
My corp is currentlyy fighting a hi-sec war against against a corp that seems to be killboard padders. At first we were all up for the fight and made a few plans and tried to lure them away from stations and gates. They refused.... We tried to be more direct but neutral remote reppers spoiled out fun. Wha wa suppose to be fun and interesting war, has turned out to be a damp squids fart.

They war decced us, they stick to trade centres like rens, they refuse to engage away from the stations and they have some corp neutral reps. I couldn't give a sh*t that they are KB padders, part of the fun was ruining there score. But remote repping is getting to be a pain. My corp mates have quickly losing interest in the war... can't blame them. Sort-it-out CCP!


First, move to Warfare and Tactics plz.

Second, I'm not sure why you think there is a problem or why you think its CCP's responsibility.

These are deliberate game mechanics that are in place for a reason.

Yes, I know neutral repping is annoying. But to say that there is no counter to your problem other than changing the game mechanic is at best niave and worst a little childish.

There are many ways your corp can counter.

(1) ECM
(2) Higher a merc corp.
(3) Just ignore them.

Just because something is difficult doesn't mean it wrong. This is why EvE is such a great game, things are difficult, challenging. and it takes a lot of thinking/planning to achieve a goal.

This is what I suggest you do.
zzzczyzoznzoz
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#5 - 2011-10-27 16:44:00 UTC
why not dec the reppers
Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#6 - 2011-10-27 16:44:52 UTC
zzzczyzoznzoz wrote:
why not dec the reppers

npc corp

wardecs are broken soz

Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division.
Alara IonStorm
#7 - 2011-10-27 16:45:29 UTC
zzzczyzoznzoz wrote:
why not dec the reppers

NPC Corps for a start.
Rhinanna
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2011-10-27 16:49:21 UTC
CCP already stated that they think neut reppers are a problem on the old forums, its just a bit of a difficult one to fix I'm afraid.

A good solution is to talk to a big alliance who don't like the guys who decced you and temp join them, suddenly the enemy find themselves with a lot more very well armed targets. Either that or temp abanadon corp, setup a new one and mock them from safety.

Just remember that leaving a corp while in space to get them concorded is considered an exploit. Leaving just BEFORE you undock and trying to get them to shoot you isn't ;)

-The sword is only as sharp as the one who wields it! Other names: Drenzul (WoT, WoW, Lineage 2, WarH, BloodBowl, BSG, SC2 and lots more) 
Tanya Fox
Doomheim
#9 - 2011-10-27 16:54:21 UTC
Satav wrote:

Yes, I know neutral repping is annoying. But to say that there is no counter to your problem other than changing the game mechanic is at best niave and worst a little childish.




There should be no such tactic allowed as neutral repping, as soon as any ship interfers in a war it should become attackable regardless of which corp it belongs to.

Even if it docks, at least it's out of the way.
Aamrr
#10 - 2011-10-27 16:58:34 UTC
My proposal seems relevant. You can find it here.
KrakizBad
Section 8.
#11 - 2011-10-27 17:00:04 UTC
If they won't let you have any fun, don't let them have any fun either. Join the Dec Shield alliance then drop, ending your war early. Repeat as often as necessary while laughing at them in local. They will come on forums and produce tears which will be much sweeter than yours.
Zagam
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#12 - 2011-10-27 17:01:24 UTC
Overwhelming firepower. Bring it.

Send in a well-tanked bait ship. let them get aggressed. Then bring in the overwhelming firepower, and break their reps.
Ann133566
Doomheim
#13 - 2011-10-27 17:07:37 UTC
Satav wrote:
Ann133566 wrote:
My corp is currentlyy fighting a hi-sec war against against a corp that seems to be killboard padders. At first we were all up for the fight and made a few plans and tried to lure them away from stations and gates. They refused.... We tried to be more direct but neutral remote reppers spoiled out fun. Wha wa suppose to be fun and interesting war, has turned out to be a damp squids fart.

They war decced us, they stick to trade centres like rens, they refuse to engage away from the stations and they have some corp neutral reps. I couldn't give a sh*t that they are KB padders, part of the fun was ruining there score. But remote repping is getting to be a pain. My corp mates have quickly losing interest in the war... can't blame them. Sort-it-out CCP!


First, move to Warfare and Tactics plz.

Second, I'm not sure why you think there is a problem or why you think its CCP's responsibility.

These are deliberate game mechanics that are in place for a reason.

Yes, I know neutral repping is annoying. But to say that there is no counter to your problem other than changing the game mechanic is at best niave and worst a little childish.

There are many ways your corp can counter.

(1) ECM
(2) Higher a merc corp.
(3) Just ignore them.

Just because something is difficult doesn't mean it wrong. This is why EvE is such a great game, things are difficult, challenging. and it takes a lot of thinking/planning to achieve a goal.

This is what I suggest you do.


First, this isn't about warfare tactis, it's a request to CCP.

Second, it's CCP's game and they said before they would fix it "soon".

Third.... isn't even worth a reply.

As for ECM, the moment we get them involved, they dock. Merc corp they aren't worth the bother. 3. Ignore them, we got too bored to ignore them.

Most of my corp mates just climbed back into their WH, while our CEO was playing the chicken dance playing over his vent. The war is pointelss no wins no losses.
Ammzi
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#14 - 2011-10-27 17:09:58 UTC
Tanya Fox wrote:
Satav wrote:

Yes, I know neutral repping is annoying. But to say that there is no counter to your problem other than changing the game mechanic is at best niave and worst a little childish.




There should be no such tactic allowed as neutral repping, as soon as any ship interfers in a war it should become attackable regardless of which corp it belongs to.

Even if it docks, at least it's out of the way.


uuhhhhhh? ........
Did you misunderstand something here mate? I don't think you quite grasp the term "neutral repping".
lol...
Gronn
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#15 - 2011-10-27 17:16:31 UTC
War decs are broken. If someone is assisting your target, then they should be considered hostile or aggressive to you as well! Period, end of story!
Tanya Fox
Doomheim
#16 - 2011-10-27 17:33:07 UTC
Ammzi wrote:
Tanya Fox wrote:
Satav wrote:

Yes, I know neutral repping is annoying. But to say that there is no counter to your problem other than changing the game mechanic is at best niave and worst a little childish.




There should be no such tactic allowed as neutral repping, as soon as any ship interfers in a war it should become attackable regardless of which corp it belongs to.

Even if it docks, at least it's out of the way.


uuhhhhhh? ........
Did you misunderstand something here mate? I don't think you quite grasp the term "neutral repping".
lol...



Lets see repairing a war target as a neutral (i.e in NPC corp). So even if someone in an NPC corp assists they should become attackable.

So did I miss something?
Alara IonStorm
#17 - 2011-10-27 17:37:24 UTC
Tanya Fox wrote:

Lets see repairing a war target as a neutral (i.e in NPC corp). So even if someone in an NPC corp assists they should become attackable.

So did I miss something?

They do become attackable. They just do not get an aggression timer meaning they can dock or jump through a gate where they have pre-positioned themselves immediately.
Hauling Hal
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#18 - 2011-10-27 17:38:30 UTC
Tanya Fox wrote:
Ammzi wrote:
Tanya Fox wrote:
Satav wrote:

Yes, I know neutral repping is annoying. But to say that there is no counter to your problem other than changing the game mechanic is at best niave and worst a little childish.




There should be no such tactic allowed as neutral repping, as soon as any ship interfers in a war it should become attackable regardless of which corp it belongs to.

Even if it docks, at least it's out of the way.


uuhhhhhh? ........
Did you misunderstand something here mate? I don't think you quite grasp the term "neutral repping".
lol...



Lets see repairing a war target as a neutral (i.e in NPC corp). So even if someone in an NPC corp assists they should become attackable.

So did I miss something?


Yes, they are already attackable when they rep, but repping doesn't give an aggro timer, so they insta dock if you shoot them.
Tanya Fox
Doomheim
#19 - 2011-10-27 17:42:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Tanya Fox
Alara IonStorm wrote:
Tanya Fox wrote:

Lets see repairing a war target as a neutral (i.e in NPC corp). So even if someone in an NPC corp assists they should become attackable.

So did I miss something?

They do become attackable. They just do not get an aggression timer meaning they can dock or jump through a gate where they have pre-positioned themselves immediately.




If they become attackable then surely it would not take much to give them an aggression timer.

CCP fix this pls.
Tanya Fox
Doomheim
#20 - 2011-10-27 17:56:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Tanya Fox
Double post
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