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If Eve was hardcore PVP would you still do it?
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Bizzaro Stormy MurphDog
B.L.U.E L.A.S.E.R.
#21 - 2013-02-24 02:02:02 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Ezwal
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
It already is hardcore PvP, so the question is moot and is already answered by the 58,000 logged in today.


I do not think that word means what you think it means.

I'll even elaborate: "hardcore" in this context means "permanent death"

*snip* Please refrain from disrespectful comments. ISD Ezwal.

I am not an alt of Chribba.
Psychotic Monk
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#22 - 2013-02-24 02:04:05 UTC
There's plenty of things to pick on Kristal Icefluxor for. His sig and his sexual orientation are not among them.

Belligerent Undesirables Selling Griefer Immunity
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#23 - 2013-02-24 03:26:36 UTC
Psychotic Monk wrote:
There's plenty of things to pick on Kristal Icefluxor for.



Yeah, I kinda went off back then didn't I.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
Psychotic Monk
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#24 - 2013-02-24 03:47:27 UTC
Turning over a new leaf isn't that easy, Krix. Try harder. Or maybe finally quit like you've been promising to forever.

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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#25 - 2013-02-24 04:13:37 UTC
Psychotic Monk wrote:
Turning over a new leaf isn't that easy, Krix. Try harder. Or maybe finally quit like you've been promising to forever.



Talk about irrelevant thread sidetracking........................

Also, you want playerbase folks to leave ? You must not really like the game that much and want it to fail.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
Bizzaro Stormy MurphDog
B.L.U.E L.A.S.E.R.
#26 - 2013-02-24 04:38:07 UTC
Bizzaro Stormy MurphDog wrote:
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
It already is hardcore PvP, so the question is moot and is already answered by the 58,000 logged in today.


I do not think that word means what you think it means.

I'll even elaborate: "hardcore" in this context means "permanent death"

*snip* Please refrain from disrespectful comments. ISD Ezwal.


The snipped portion wasn't disrespectful, it was a fact (Oscar Wilde was) and was supposed to be a joke for those who got it. My bad, I guess.

I am not an alt of Chribba.
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#27 - 2013-02-24 05:12:03 UTC
Permanent death would be stupid.
Full skill loss would be stupid.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#28 - 2013-02-24 05:23:18 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Permanent death would be stupid.
Full skill loss would be stupid.


Not empty quoting.
Arronicus
State War Academy
Caldari State
#29 - 2013-02-24 06:24:53 UTC
You bet I'd play. I'd skill up 14 hour arty thrasher pilots, fit them out dirt cheap, and suicide gank people's pods, shuttles, then pods, anything just to kill them. Once me, and the other heros of eve had suicide ganked enough of the 'hardcore' mode players to create a critical mass, causing them all to quit, and ccp to undo the function, bringing back eve to the way it is now, I'd go back to my main characters, and enjoying the game.
343guilty1
#30 - 2013-02-24 07:37:52 UTC
It would be fairly boring i'd think that given people did fight and die, that the majority of pvp would be done in t1 frigates and maybe cruisers, higher class ships like BS and caps would never be seen and would be pretty pointless. The game would lose interest as you can never get into anything t2 without taking months of pvp breaks sitting in station, and that's not any fun....
Mina Hiragi
Perkone
Caldari State
#31 - 2013-02-24 07:54:35 UTC
343guilty1 wrote:
It would be fairly boring i'd think that given people did fight and die, that the majority of pvp would be done in t1 frigates and maybe cruisers, higher class ships like BS and caps would never be seen and would be pretty pointless. The game would lose interest as you can never get into anything t2 without taking months of pvp breaks sitting in station, and that's not any fun....


This. Even if the skill system - which simply wouldn't work in a permadeath game - was revised, the game would degenerate into Internet Spaceships: FPS Edition.

That might prove to be a fun game, but it ain't EVE.
Reaver Glitterstim
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#32 - 2013-02-24 18:24:41 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
It already is hardcore PvP, so the question is moot and is already answered by the 58,000 logged in today.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Fyar4wJ3-Y

Diablo had a system much like EVE - when you die, all your stuff drops on the ground and whoever killed you can immediately take it. You can then resurrect in town and try to get it back with a naked character that still has all the spells and attributes you had before. This used to be normal in games, but apparently there were too many people who couldn't handle it.

FT Diomedes: "Reaver, sometimes I wonder what you are thinking when you sit down to post."

Frostys Virpio: "We have to give it to him that he does put more effort than the vast majority in his idea but damn does it sometime come out of nowhere."
Obvious Cyno
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#33 - 2013-02-24 18:49:54 UTC
I was always worried if you die in an alpha clone you lose everything down to 900k sp. That's not the case but it'd be interesting to see.
Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
#34 - 2013-02-24 19:09:29 UTC
Pewty McPew wrote:
But if there were no such things as medical clones, when you die, you reroll another character and start from scratch. .


Considering that would pretty much spell the end for suicide ganking, I think it would actually make the game safer for a lot of people.

http://youtu.be/t0q2F8NsYQ0
Terranid Meester
Tactical Assault and Recon Unit
#35 - 2013-02-24 23:15:35 UTC
Perma death could only be used in a game like an FPS [such as DayZ] where anyone can pick up a gun and shoot but it takes skill to learn how to do these things] or maybe like Skyrim where there is a level cap, say level 100 and if you die you can level up again via a new path [choose to maximise archery instead of two handed this time per se].

However it would never work for eve with its continous training, no level cap and millions of skillpoints.
Reaver Glitterstim
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#36 - 2013-02-25 01:59:37 UTC
Obvious Cyno wrote:
I was always worried if you die in an alpha clone you lose everything down to 900k sp. That's not the case but it'd be interesting to see.
For a long time I believed that was the case.

FT Diomedes: "Reaver, sometimes I wonder what you are thinking when you sit down to post."

Frostys Virpio: "We have to give it to him that he does put more effort than the vast majority in his idea but damn does it sometime come out of nowhere."
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