EVE General Discussion

Eve's PVP death and resurrection system is far and away better then other MMO systems *cough* WOW *cough* currently out there.

But if there were no such things as medical clones, when you die, you reroll another character and start from scratch.

Would your play style be different? Would you be as willing to jump in your ship and fly into battle as readily as you do now? Would you be willing to gank that Mackinaw mining ice? How much of a risk would you be willing to take?

If there was an option to play with a hardcore mode given at character selection, would you choose it? Would you choose it if there were say a 3x skill mulltiplier?

I have played many MMOs over the years and the uniqueness of Eve's system seems to provide the almost perfect sandbox atmosphere that exists today. I was just pondering how things would be different if dead meant dead.

I have played such hardcore modes, but I think it is just an excuse by the game makers for not having a deep and thorough development path for your characters in the first place. It is then fun at the end of one's path to risk it all and to lose it in a freak mishap so one can start over again.

It only works when a game's mechanic is simple. Then it is a blast.

I'm not suggesting they change anything. I was posing the question if clones didn't exist how would that effect your gameplay.

I'd expect the outcry, by both PVP'ers and Carebears alike, to lead to a pure PVP server IF, and only if, it meant good revenues for CCP.

But it will never happen, because "hardcore" PVP as you describe it would seriously change the face of NULL SEC as we know it.

Cap ship pilots would be constantly screaming for a screen of anything to act as meatshields because even with accelerated training NOBODY is going to want to lose ALL THAT TRAINING.

So, yeah... if you want to truly mess with NULL SEC... do it ;)

Or maybe CCP will do it to curb the proliferation of cap ships. What a Machiavellian thought, with a "Big Red Button" thrown in for dramatic effect.

Such hypothetical change is so bloody evil, I love it.

Seriously? You're asking this? Noone is going to invest potentially years of training to lose it in a fight. Noone! The only way that would work is a hardcore P2W system, not PVP.

Hell, people do it in real life "PvP" every day. Though real life *is* notoriously P2W.

Would make grinding skills rather pointless wouldn't it?
Not to mention, 0.0 would become a ghost town.....Who's going to take a chance on losing a 100 mil sp character in his SC?

This doesn't really work for games beyond a certain complexity. There are just too many situations where you could lose your character for good and it stops to be fun after a while.

EVE has a pretty good balance in this respect.

I would be killing as many pods as I could.

Jovian space.

CCP will open up Jovian space, and by Jove, they've developed a region wide field that blocks the ability to transfer consciousness via pod technology. Big warnings at the gates before you enter Jove space.

Then pilots find that there are resources in Jove space (and only there) that are needed to produce some amazing new T3 ships. BPOs for those ships and components also only drop in Jove space.

Truly epic tears ensue. Loners will try and sneak in for massive profits and scream when caught by a gate camp, llong hated FC's/corp mates will find themselves podded by friendly fire when huge fleets try to control space long enough to get crazy rich. Epic content will be developed.